Minutes · Jun 7, 2023
June 7, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes
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around the building. One of the interesting things about this building is that all the refuse is going to be stored internal to the building itself, so obviously the refuse truck will not be able to go inside the building to get the garbage. It is Mr. Delaney’s understanding that at the time that the garbage truck arrives on site, the management company will wheel out the refuse to the waiting refuse truck, unload it and the refuse truck will then go up around the building and exit the property. Mr. Delaney stated that the final turning movement that will be presented is for a typical delivery truck that we can expect for this site; this will include your standard Amazon delivery, U.S. Postal service and the smaller FedEx and UPS trucks. He said that we expect that these locally smaller local delivery trucks will utilize these 15-minute parking spaces located in front of the building, in which the trucks can access these spaces can back into it and then leave the site. Mr. Delaney went back to the layout plan and show that portion of the Peckman River is regulated water by the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection so our firm prepared the necessary site plans and reports to obtain the required permits from the DEP and ultimately this project did receive approval from the DEP on September 21, 2020. These permits included a number of things, such as the flood hazard area verification which established the limits of the floodway on site and the flood hazard area. They were also issued a flood hazard area individual permit which provided approvals for the new bridge that the applicant is proposing, the utility crossings under the Peckman River and approval of the stormwater management design itself. Mr. Delaney stated that in addition to the flood hazard area permits, they also received permits for disturbance to wetlands and state open waters which will allow for the construction of the bridge, as well as for the stormwater outfalls. Mr. Delaney stated that the final permit that we received from the DEP included approvals for the disturbance of the actively disturbed areas on site that are located within a wetlands transition area located just to the south of the site and along the stream corridor itself. Mr. Delaney went over Mr. John Hess letter and agreed to comply with all the comments outlined in the report as a part of any final site plans
south of the site and along the stream corridor itself. Mr. Delaney went over Mr. John Hess letter and agreed to comply with all the comments outlined in the report as a part of any final site plans developed, so this project can ultimately be approved. Mr. Delaney wanted to go over three comments from the letter. The first comment, number 7, referred to the proposed retaining wall along the nature walk and whether or not it needs a fence or guard along the top of it He said that this wall is only going to be 3 feet in height and will be set back from the parking lot by at least six and a half feet. Mr. Delaney said that there will be substantial plantings between the wall and the parking lot itself so they feel that it will provide an adequate buffer and that no railing or fence will be required. Comment number 8 referred to the need to provide details for the new proposed bridge; he said that the bridge they are proposing was approved by the DEP is a pre manufactured bridge, so since the bridge is pre manufactured the final construction details of the bridge and engineering design can't be released until the structure itself is purchased from the manufacturer.; he said that the applicant would prefer to provide any construction details associated with the bridge during construction permit review. The final comment is number 11 and this is relating to the need to analyze the existing sewer pump house and its capacity. Mr. Delaney stated that if this project is approved the applicant will be willing to work with the Township to ensure that the pump station has adequate capacity to handle flows in the new building. He said that this would be required as a part of the TWA or treatment works application that they would have to make to the State of New Jersey to connect the sanitary sewer to the Township system. BOARD QUESTIONS Mayor McCartney asked if there were any wetlands to the South or east of this project. Mr. Delaney said that there are wetlands to the South, which are located in the lot owned by the
Township and there are a little bit of wetlands and state open water along the Peckman River itself. Mayor McCartney also asked if there will be any buffer. Mr. Delaney said that he does not remember exactly what the required buffer to those wetlands was. He said that the one thing he would want to point out is that all of the proposed activities in that portion of the site are within actively disturbed areas of the transition area and not in the wetlands. Council President Williams asked Mr. Delaney to explain again the lighting fixtures from 20feet instead of the required 18feet. Mr. Delaney said that the lighting plan is providing a series of fixtures that wrap around the perimeter of the parking lot and the intent behind this design was to have all the lighting shine internal to the site rather than having any internal fixtures that shine out away from this site. In order to accomplish that feat what they had to do, particularly around the main building itself, is they had a span that we had to throw the light from the fixtures not only across the parking spaces but across the drive aisle itself as well and in order to accomplish that we needed to have a mounting height of 20 feet rather than 18 feet. If they were to go down to an 18-feet mounting height they would have to put additional fixtures around closer to the building which would shine out and away from the site and they are really trying to avoid that in this lighting design. Mr. Guarino asked if there will be any speed controls along the roadways and around the parking areas for this development, also if there will be any signage for speed and will there be anything by the entrances and the egresses for the parking to let people know that cars may be coming in and out of that area. Mr. Delaney said that the first part of the answer is no, they are not providing any speed controls such as speed tables, speed humps or speed bumps throughout the parking lot. The main entrance drive as it comes down has a natural curve to it which should help slow down cars. As far as speed limit signs, they are not proposing any of those at this time but it's certainly something they can consider and certainly something will be implemented by management should that be an issue on this site. As far as stop signs, they are providing a stop sign and a stop bar for traffic exiting out onto Pleasant Valley Way and
mething will be implemented by management should that be an issue on this site. As far as stop signs, they are providing a stop sign and a stop bar for traffic exiting out onto Pleasant Valley Way and they are providing stop bars throughout the site itself including at the exits to the garage as they go into the parking lot. Mr. Smeraldo asked what is the weight limit of the bridge. Mr. Delaney said that he doesn’t remember the exact weight, but it will certainly support the large moving trucks in and out of the site. He said that he can confirm that it is designed for H20 loading, which is a high weight loading. Mr. Smeraldo also asked what is the diameter size of the suppression line. Mr. Delaney said that it's going to be an 8-inch fire line that wraps around the building. Mr. Smeraldo asked if there are emergency vehicle spots in the front of the building. Mr. Delaney said that there are two spots for emergency vehicles and they certainly can pull up anywhere along the perimeter of the building. He said that there is a fire line that wraps around 75% of the building and they can park in front of the perpendicular spaces in front of the building. Mr. Jensen asked how many ADA parking spaces there would be and where they would be located. Mr. Delaney said they are proposing six ADA compliant spaces and these are going to be right in front of the proposed main entrance; one of which will be van accessible. He said that they will all have proper curb ramps that will go up to the sidewalk and allow access and there will also be ADA spaces within the parking level themselves below the building. Mr. Jensen also asked if the electric lines will be underground or on poles. Mr. Delaney said that they will have to coordinate with PSE&G exactly how it will be brought to the site. Chairman Bagoff asked if either one or both of the signs will be lighted and if so, what is the timing of the lighting of the signs. Mr. Delaney said there is not going to be any internal lighting as far as external lighting; the architect will address that or will abide by whatever the board wants to do in regard to the lighting.
Chairman Bagoff asked if the lighting in the parking lot is going to be on timers. Mr. Delaney said that they will be on dusk to dawn timers and they will drop down to security lighting at night. Chairman Bagoff asked if there will be any lighting around the nature walkway. Mr. Delaney said that there is no lighting provided around the natural walkway. Chairman Bagoff asked if what if the building is filled before six years, will the applicant then agree to fill the rest of the EV stations. Mr. Delaney said that the logic behind the 1/3 initially, 1/3 after three years and the final third after six years that actually comes from the state law itself has nothing to do with how fast their building is going to be filled up; he said that it has more to do with how quickly electric vehicles are being brought onto the road. Chairman Bagoff asked who will maintain in perpetuity the two major detention basins. Mr. Delaney said that the owner will have to maintain those in perpetuity and Mr. Hess has pointed out in his review letter they will have to put an easement around them and will need to be incorporated in the deed and the maintenance manual itself; it will also be logged in the deed as well. PROFESSIONAL QUESTIONS Mr. Grygiel wanted to clarify that this is actually not a redevelopment plan property. Mr. Hess also wanted to clarify that during Mr. Delaney’s testimony he only requested one waiver for the light fixture mounting height, but there were actually two other waivers one was from the requirement to submit a staging plan and the other was from the requirement to submit an environmental impact statement. PUBLIC QUESTION Ms. Joyce Rudin at Woodland Avenue asked if Mr. Delaney is aware that the storm water management regulations were updated in 2021 and that now require the use of green infrastructure. Mr. Delaney said that the new regulations do require the use of green infrastructure and there are exceptions to those regulations and those exceptions specifically state that any project that received approvals prior to that date even if it was from the DEP means that it's exempt from these new regulations requiring green infrastructure. Ms. Joyce Rudin asked about management needing to have somebody on site to bring the garbage out to the garbage truck. She asked Mr. Delaney to explain if he has ever seen that happen in another building that he has
asked about management needing to have somebody on site to bring the garbage out to the garbage truck. She asked Mr. Delaney to explain if he has ever seen that happen in another building that he has worked on and how exactly that would work in West Orange. Mr. Delaney said that he has seen it in operation and has seen it function successfully. Ms. Joyce Rudin asked if having only one egress entrance could possibly be a problem in the case of an emergency when everybody needs to get out all at once. Mr. Delaney said one main entrance leaving the site is sufficient. Mr. Kevin Malanga at Ridge Road asked how many trees in the parking lot does this project require. Mr. Delaney said that it requires one tree for every 10 parking spaces and they are proposing 35 trees around the perimeter of the parking lot. Mr. Jack Dean at Bromley Drive asked how would a school bus access the property or pick up or drop off children at the beginning or end of the day there. Mr. Delaney said that they have to drive on site, he said that they can certainly fit on site and circulate around it. Mr. Li at Mayfair Drive asked how traffic will be impacted. Mr. Delaney said that there was not a traffic report prepared for this. Mr. Delaney did point out is that this is a fully conforming application, so that's why no traffic report was done. NO PUBLIC COMMENT* PRESENTATION
The architect Mr. Arthur Michels entered on the record, he was sworn under oath and his credentials were accepted by the board. He started his testimony by giving a quick description of the project. It is a 142-unit building, four story building on top of one level of parking. The parking is partially below the finished grade. Out of the 142 units there are 12 one bedrooms, 110 two bedrooms and 20 — three bedrooms. Of those 142 units 28 of those units will be affordable units. The mix of the affordable units is 4 one bedrooms, it is 16 two bedrooms and is 8 three bedrooms it also has a large amenity space on the ground floor and partially on the second floor. There's a garage in the lowest level, which has 170 parking spaces. Mr. Michels said that, at this point, they have not indicated gates, but the owner would like to have the option to put those gates in. He said that they will be operated by a wireless fob to open the gate. He said that within the garage, besides the 170 parking spaces, there are 26 EV spaces that are immediately along the left of the entry drive as you come in from the southerly entrance. There are two elevator cores, one in the lower left-hand corner and one in the upper left that relates to the entrance up above at the ground level. There is a stair close to each of those elevator cores and there's handicapped parking spaces; there's two on the South core, 3 on the North core to supplement the outside spaces. Mr. Michels also stated that on the North core, there's a van accessible space and the ceiling height in the garage would enable the van access into the garage. He said that off of those two cores, there is the trash room on each side, so there are two trash rooms on the North and South side by the elevator cores; those relate to some trash shoots and smaller trash rooms that are on the upper floors. Mr. Michels said that there is one shoot in each room for trash and there's one shoot for recycling; he said that they will be collected into bins that will get rolled out. Mr. Michels stated that on the north side next to the trash room and next to the parking there's 40 feet by 25 feet wide storage area that the owner intends to designate as a storage area for bicycle storage for the residents, so that the outside bike racks can be utilized by visitors. Mr. Michels said that, additionally, there are various mechanical rooms
o designate as a storage area for bicycle storage for the residents, so that the outside bike racks can be utilized by visitors. Mr. Michels said that, additionally, there are various mechanical rooms around the perimeter of the garage that tie into to the utilities and then there's a small pet spot off of the one elevator lobby to help residents deal with their pets. The ground level plan shows the building with a donut shape going around and in the middle of the donut, there is a courtyard. He said that the courtyard would have a pool, some amenity areas that would be predominantly paving with some landscaping on it and there would also be balconies or patios off of these units that circulate the interior courtyard. Mr. Michels said that the main entrance into the building is on the West side, you come into a lobby and in that lobby, there will be a package/mailing room, leasing offices and management office. As you go in, there is a larger ceiling height space in this lobby and as you go in, it goes from steps or an elevator up and then there's amenity areas that are available for the residents. There's a large lounge area with very wide doors into an area that would have a pantry that could work in conjunction with the lounge and outside of that there would be a little grill station that would be available for the residents. Mr. Michels stated that on the other side of it there would be some restrooms that would serve as both the public spaces on this level as well as the pool area with a little cabanas space behind it and possibly a yoga space. Mr. Michels said that the second floor is very similar type. There's a gym on this floor, there's a library/conference room and then there's some co-working space available for the residents as well as the screening room. Mr. Michels detailed the plan of what a typical affordable unit look and what typical units are for the market rate units. He said that all of the units meet all the size requirements, all the units are 100% adaptable for a handicap compliance, all the units have stackable washers and dryers and very nice eating kitchen areas with some kind of bar. Mr. Michels said that one thing about many of the units we have is that a number of the units will have a den and is an area in the back of the unit by the entrance that is intended to be a home office. These units are a little bit larger;
any of the units we have is that a number of the units will have a den and is an area in the back of the unit by the entrance that is intended to be a home office. These units are a little bit larger; this 10
particular unit is 7 1/2 feet wide by 11 feet long, it doesn't have any windows or closets in it and it's not intended to be a bedroom. It was recommended during SPRAB meeting not to have a door, but the architect feel it is appropriate to have one. Most of the units are intended to have a balcony and the mechanical system will sit off the edge of the balcony that vents directly outside. The corners of the building would have a cap metal standing seam roof and the larger extents would have an asphalt shingles roof. Mr. Michels stated that the building height meets within the requirements of being a maximum of 65 feet and that is to the absolute peak of the roof. It is the owner’s intention to put cameras around the property and as far as the two entry signs there is a desire to light those with up lights and that would be dusk to dawn for that lighting. In regards to the construction time frame of the building, the architect believes that a project like this take approximately 18 months after a construction permit has been issued. BOARD QUESTIONS Chairman Bagoff asked if the colors and materials that Mr. Michels show in his rendering design will be the colors and materials used in the final product. Mr. Michels said that the intent is to do this color scheme; the actual sample hasn't been picked at this time, but this is the color scheme that they are intending to use. Chairman Bagoff asked if the applicant is considering to use a light, white or reflective roof to help reduce the heat island effect. Mr. Michels said that's not appropriate for this building because the majority of their roofs are sloped shingle roofs. The interior of the courtyard will have lighter pavers and the landscape will help decrease the heat island effect. Chairman Bagoff asked if they will be providing architectural design for the cameras that will be put up around the property. Mr. Michels said that they will provide plans. Mayor McCartney asked if the building design was to intentionally mimic Brighton Gardens. Mr. Michels said that they did not specifically copy them, but they did use it as a reference. Chairman Bagoff asked if it is possible to add islands with trees in the parking lot. Mr. Michels deferred that question to Mr. Delaney. Mr. Alpert asked if Mr. Michels has a sense of how many school children we might expect coming out of this project. Mr. Michel said that
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