June 20, 2019

Neuer accepted Mr. Conway as an expert in landscape architecture. Mr. Conway presented the relocated child care study that was marked as Exhibit A-10 for identification. He said he was involved in the change of the orientation of the school and referred to Exhibit A-10 detailing the change. Mr. Conway also stated that at the last meeting the Board had concerns regarding the proposed driveway off of St. Cloud Avenue. He said that they have changed it to a one way providing ingress only so that now it has less of an impact to St. Cloud Avenue. Mr. Schwarzbaum asked why the landscape architect is giving testimony to the change of the orientation of the school. Mr. Williams stated that he was trying to give the Board additional information regarding the concept plan to change the orientation of the school. Chairman Neuer stated that Mr. Conway can only testify with respect to landscaping matters as a result of the new design of the building. Mr. Williams stated that Mr. Conway will continue testimony regarding the landscaping. Mr. Conway presented sheet 5 of the lighting plan from the submission package and detailed it. He said that they will be using the same fixtures as the ones at the Turtle Back Zoo so that there is some consistency in the neighborhood. Mr. Hess stated that he has no problem with what is being proposed because it meets the illuminating engineer’s recommendations; he said that the applicant will need a waiver from the Board for the reduced levels. Chairman Neuer asked Mr. Williams if he requested this design waiver; he said yes. Chairman Neuer stated that the waiver is granted. Mr. Schwarzbaum asked Mr. Conway if the direction of the child care building is not changed, are foot candles being proposed at the south side of the building; he said no. Mr. Conway stated that if the client decides to change the building then the lighting plan will be updated. He said that they will provide adequate lighting on whatever the Board determines the direction of the building to be. There were no further questions for Mr. Conway from any of the Board Members or the Board Professionals. Chairman Neuer asked if any members of the public had any questions for Mr. Conway regarding the lighting plan. Joe| Goldstein approached the podium and stated that he lives at 299 St. Cloud Avenue. He asked Mr. Conway if any lighting is being proposed in the

estions for Mr. Conway regarding the lighting plan. Joe| Goldstein approached the podium and stated that he lives at 299 St. Cloud Avenue. He asked Mr. Conway if any lighting is being proposed in the current playground area; he said no. Chairman Neuer asked Mr. Williams if it is their intention to submit a new plan which rotates the building; he said they are undecided at this point based on comments that were made. There were no further questions for Mr. Conway regarding the lighting plan.