August 14, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

15 (Pages 54 to 57)15 (Pages 54 to 57) Page 54 1 perhaps I'm asking the attorney about this -- so 2 that that report, after having been testified by two 3 of you experts, could be made public for public 4 consumption? 5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: This is up to the 6 applicant. 7 MS. PEARSON: I am asking the 8 applicant. 9 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay, good. Thank 10 you. 11 MS. PEARSON: And the applicant is not 12 answering me. 13 MR. PLOCKER: I'm sorry, I'm not -- I 14 did not testify, I'm not answering -- 15 MS. PEARSON: Okay. 16 MR. PLOCKER: -- that question right 17 now. 18 MS. PEARSON: So even though you 19 represent this poor gentleman sitting next to you -- 20 MR. PLOCKER: Well, I don't think he's 21 a poor gentleman, I think he's a very qualified 22 architect -- 23 MS. PEARSON: I understand that but -- 24 MR. PLOCKER: -- who I've worked with 25 before. Page 56 1 comply with -- 2 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, you're 3 testifying. 4 MS. PEARSON: I'm -- 5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am -- 6 MS. PEARSON: -- asking a question. 7 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, you're 8 testifying. 9 MS. PEARSON: Excuse me. I am not. 10 I'm asking a question, it's a leading question and 11 I'm trying to get to it. Let me finish, please. 12 How can this, with all of those 13 surrounding conditions, be safe? How can you 14 testify to that being safe? If it's an ideal place 15 to put your building on fractured rock, how is that 16 safe? 17 MR. PLOCKER: That's outside the 18 architect's expertise. 19 MS. PEARSON: But he testified to it. 20 MR. PLOCKER: That's outside his 21 expertise. 22 MS. PEARSON: Well, maybe we should 23 have stopped him from testifying when he said it. 24 Sir, could you please answer the 25 question? Page 55 1 MS. PEARSON: -- you're leaving him 2 hanging. 3 MR. PLOCKER: I don't want to get into 4 a colloquy, I don't want to argue; what I will 5 represent, again, is that any of the site work post 6 approval that needs to be done, including the 7 removal of rock, it is all regulated, it is 8 regulated by the State of New Jersey, it is 9 regulated by the Township of West Orange, and my 10 client will 100 percent acknowledge on the record 11 that it must comply with all of those requirements. 12 MS. PEARSON: That's fine, but can you 13 make that report public for public consumption, and 14 why not? 15 MR. PLOCKER: I don't have an answer 16 for that now. Thank you. 17 MS. PEARSON: Okay. So Mr.

MS. PEARSON: That's fine, but can you 13 make that report public for public consumption, and 14 why not? 15 MR. PLOCKER: I don't have an answer 16 for that now. Thank you. 17 MS. PEARSON: Okay. So Mr. Appel, 18 following up on how this -- I just want to touch 19 base on what you said about the rock, thin in some 20 areas. Even though it's a perfect place to put a 21 building, the ideal place to put a building, how 22 could this fractured rock condition, after removing 23 roughly 5904 trees and while refusing to comply with 24 the most current and more strict stormwater 25 management rules that all major developments have to Page 57 1 MR. APPEL: There's -- there will be a 2 structural engineer that will be responsible for the 3 design of the foundations, in accordance with the 4 geotechnical exploration, and that is typically 5 what's done. That's what's done on every project. 6 MS. PEARSON: No answer. Thank you. 7 (Applause by members of the public) 8 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Welcome. Please 9 state your name for the record and spell your last 10 name, please. 11 MR. PETER GUARINO: My name is Peter 12 Guarino, G-U-A-R-I-N-O. 13 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: You have the floor, 14 sir. 15 MR. PETER GUARINO: Okay. Question: 16 My understanding, and if you can confirm, is that 17 you're proposing a kennel, a dog kennel? 18 MR. APPEL: There is a -- there is a 19 building that is -- that is going to be for dog 20 care, correct. 21 MR. PETER GUARINO: Okay. Is it 22 available to the public? 23 MR. APPEL: I don't have details on 24 the operation of that, only that the -- that the 25 building was placed and it's available for -- for