August 14, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

18 (Pages 66 to 69)18 (Pages 66 to 69) Page 66 1 MS. RUDIN: All right. 2 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you. 3 MS. RUDIN: Do you believe that a 4 substantial portion of the very low and low -- 5 low-income tenants who earn, some of them, under 6 $26,000, will have their own vehicle? 7 MR. APPEL: Couldn't -- I couldn't 8 opine on that. 9 MS. RUDIN: Okay. If they do not have 10 their own vehicle because they are very low income, 11 what accommodations will there be for these people 12 for access to public transportation? 13 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: He didn't testify to 14 that. He didn't testify to that. 15 MR. APPEL: It's not -- not part of my 16 responsibility on the project. 17 MS. RUDIN: So you're -- when you are 18 building for low-income tenants, there is no 19 consideration to the fact that they may need access 20 to public transportation; is that correct? 21 MR. APPEL: That -- 22 MR. PLOCKER: That's outside of Mr. 23 Appel's expertise. 24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: That's outside of 25 his testimony, ma'am. Page 68 1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you. 2 Come right up, ma'am. State your name 3 and spell your last name for the record, please. 4 MS. SMALL: My name is Susan Small, I 5 live at 22 Fowler Drive in the Highlands, and I want 6 to submit for the Planning Board a picture of the 7 property -- my property and what the environment is, 8 the natural environment is behind my unit. It also 9 extends to others all along the rear of the street 10 that I am on and that's Fowler Drive. I went to the 11 Planning Board -- don't -- 12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am -- 13 MS. SMALL: -- interrupt me, please. 14 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Well -- 15 MS. SMALL: I went to the Planning 16 Board -- 17 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, I want you to 18 listen for a moment. The other people in this room 19 respect you, as we do. You have to respect them and 20 the process -- ma'am -- 21 MS. SMALL: What did I just say that 22 bothered you? 23 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Listen. It's a 24 process. You're going outside the process. You're 25 preventing the other people from asking questions Page 67 1 MS. RUDIN: Do you know what the 2 furthest walk is from the high elevation -- 3 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Excuse me. Ladies 4 and gentlemen, we're trying to hear the questions. 5 We respect you, please respect the young lady who's 6 speaking. 7 MS. RUDIN: Thank you so much. 8 (Public members shout out - indiscernible) 9 MS. RUDIN: Do you know the

rying to hear the questions. 5 We respect you, please respect the young lady who's 6 speaking. 7 MS. RUDIN: Thank you so much. 8 (Public members shout out - indiscernible) 9 MS. RUDIN: Do you know the distance 10 from the highest or furthest point in this 11 development to the closest bus stop? 12 MR. APPEL: I do not. 13 MS. RUDIN: Do you know how much of 14 the walking is not accommodated by sidewalks? 15 MR. APPEL: That's more of a site 16 question. 17 MS. RUDIN: Okay. Sidewalks are not 18 part of your -- you do not cover sidewalks? As an 19 architect when you're designing, you don't think in 20 terms of where the sidewalks will be placed? 21 MR. APPEL: The discipline, it's 22 delineated on the site drawings, not the 23 architectural drawings. 24 MS. RUDIN: All right. Okay. Thank 25 you so much. Page 69 1 that are relevant. The applicant has provided an 2 expert and you are now asked to ask them questions 3 about their testimony. There is time under the law 4 in the future of this application to make public 5 comment. I'm going to ask you that you respect the 6 process, as we respect you and ask him questions of 7 his testimony -- 8 MS. SMALL: Yes. 9 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: -- at this time, 10 please. 11 MS. SMALL: Yes. Okay, the first 12 thing. I came to the Planning Board to look at the 13 plans. I was not allowed to, I was told they're not 14 available, they're only available to the Planning 15 Board. The person who I spoke with was rushing me 16 out because she had to go to a meeting. I was very 17 respectful of her and she said to me "If you want to 18 submit this picture and get it stamped and submit it 19 for the Planning Board to have as information, you 20 have to go to the Planning Board," she wrote a 21 little note when your meeting was and that I should 22 go and present it here and now. Do you want me to 23 take an oath of honesty on a Bible to tell you -- 24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am -- 25 MS. SMALL: -- that that's the truth?