August 14, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

52 (Pages 202 to 205)52 (Pages 202 to 205) Page 202 1 corner coming back over to -- to this house over 2 here that I'm pointing to, which is, I guess, at the 3 -- and I apologize, I don't have the lots, blocks or 4 addresses -- 5 MR. WEISLEDER: That's okay. 6 MR. APPEL: -- but I was estimating 7 that to be around 509 feet. 8 MR. WEISLEDER: Okay. 9 MR. APPEL: From this corner of the 10 building, Building C, going back to the same house 11 over here (indicating), at that corner, about 480 12 feet, 482 feet. From this corner -- from that same 13 corner up going to the house, the closest house 14 across from Howell, so it's not these lots but 15 across from Howell, was 545 feet. 16 MR. WEISLEDER: Okay. And then -- 17 MR. APPEL: And all these are, you 18 know, clearly, you know, everything is within all of 19 the setback lines that were included in the 20 ordinance. 21 MR. WEISLEDER: Sure. And then 22 Building -- just, again, Building D is how far from 23 the nearest home? 24 MR. APPEL: You said Building D? 25 MR. WEISLEDER: Yeah. Page 204 1 year that was -- that this was created, this actual 2 image was created? Was it four years ago; three 3 years ago; a year ago? 4 MR. APPEL: Between a year -- maybe a 5 year or year and a half -- 6 MR. WEISLEDER: Okay. 7 MR. APPEL: -- ago. 8 MR. WEISLEDER: Given, you said, that 9 this is a diagram -- dia -- I can't even say the 10 word -- diagrammatic, trees and showing -- I mean, 11 it looks beautiful, it looks nice but we heard that 12 the forest is not good from previous testimony. Is 13 there other technologies to better depict to the 14 public the sight lines and what it would look like 15 using architectural technologies besides this 16 drawing? I'm not familiar with all the systems out 17 there, but I believe there are other technologies 18 that could be used to depict this more clearly and 19 better of what the homes on Howell would see or 20 other homes on Highland would see. 21 MR. APPEL: So our first mission was 22 to make sure that we were locating and designing in 23 accordance with the metrics in the ordinance. Our 24 second issue is we thought having these sectional 25 drawings, and we did two of these, help show the Page 203 1 MR. APPEL: So the closest was where 2 we drew this section, and that dimension, I have as 3 around -- so on the site plan, from the lower point 4 of the building here, the building steps

he Page 203 1 MR. APPEL: So the closest was where 2 we drew this section, and that dimension, I have as 3 around -- so on the site plan, from the lower point 4 of the building here, the building steps up in two 5 tiers, so the lower point was approximately two 6 hundred and -- I'm showing 264 feet and I just want 7 to make sure that's consistent. 8 MR. WEISLEDER: That's good, it's 9 fine. 10 MR. APPEL: It will be -- and I'm 11 showing on the other 230 feet, but that may have 12 been to the upper tier. 13 MR. WEISLEDER: So would you agree 14 with the testimony of your engineer that that was a 15 nice buffer all around to all the homes, from an 16 architectural point of view? 17 MR. APPEL: I -- I -- I think that the 18 idea to kind of cluster the structures toward center 19 of the property was quite successful, in my opinion. 20 MR. WEISLEDER: Okay. The -- the 21 picture, did you do the red lines for all the homes 22 or just that one home on Howell? 23 MR. APPEL: We did one section here 24 (indicating) and we did another section going down. 25 MR. WEISLEDER: And can I ask what Page 205 1 representative scale of things, and while they're 2 still diagrammatic, I think it shows how far these 3 distances, you know, are and the representative 4 scale of a house to a building, and I think that -- 5 and the grading as well, and I think that's very 6 important. 7 MR. WEISLEDER: I don't -- I agree and 8 I disagree because I think there's a reality to 9 things. Have you been to the site to see this and 10 see what this drawing looks like compared to what 11 you did and stand at that gentleman's house, which 12 is not mine, by the way, for the record, but I'm 13 just wondering, you know, because I think there's 14 better technologies to depict a reality of what it 15 is, and yes, this gives us a sense but not a 16 realistic sense. Would you agree with that? 17 MR. APPEL: I, you know, looking -- 18 looking at a diagram like this, for me, it tells a 19 picture and it tells a story, so I was confident 20 that the exhibit in here, that it's -- it's -- it's 21 telling a story. 22 MR. WEISLEDER: Okay. Fair enough. 23 Thank you. 24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you. 25 Please step up to the mic, state your