September 11, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

11 of 71 sheets Page 41 to 44 of 180 09/27/2024 06:14:01 AM 41 these types of operations are special grills that are1 non flaring grills.2 THE PUBLIC: Right. But there's open fire3 up there, correct?4 THE WITNESS: Open -- the whole idea is, is5 the grills would not have open fire.6 THE PUBLIC: And what materials do you use7 on a rooftop should a fire occur?8 THE WITNESS: The exterior siding is fiber9 cement, which is essentially fire resistant, and most of10 the pedestal pavers, which are the flooring surface,11 typically are either tire -- tile or cementitious, which12 are also fire resistant as well.13 THE PUBLIC: So tell me, what is the actual14 material of the roof? People are walking on cement, is15 what you're saying.16 THE WITNESS: People are walking on pavers17 that are installed above a flat membrane roof. So18 you're not walking on the actual roof, you're walking on19 an elevated paver that is sitting above the roof.20 That's what is proposed.21 THE PUBLIC: So, but my concern is you got22 seven feet from the roof at one point, if somebody does23 elect to smoke, you're going have a whole gamut of24 population living there. You might have teenagers, you25 42 might have people smoking up there, even if it's not1 permitted officially. What type of fire mitigation do2 you have in your architectural plans?3 THE WITNESS: The building is built to meet4 or exceed all of the code requirements. So the5 buildings fully sprinklered and --6 THE PUBLIC: But that's the interior of the7 building.8 THE WITNESS: That is correct.9 THE PUBLIC: But I'm talking about the roof.10 You got teenagers potentially smoking on the roof.11 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, the management12 company will take care of this by the agreement.13 THE PUBLIC: But he's the architect.14 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am. Ma'am.15 THE PUBLIC: I really do want to understand16 --17 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: The architect builds it.18 He doesn't stand there and prosecute.19 THE PUBLIC: But I didn't hear the materials20 that are being used.21 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, the goal of the22 meeting is that the planning board hears how the23 buildings going to built and the structure. The24 management company will be code enforcement in the25 43 building.1 THE PUBLIC: I'm just trying to make the2 planning board aware that there is a fire hazard unless3 the architect, Mr. Appel --4 MR. PLOCKER: Is there a question.5 THE PUBLIC: --

in the25 43 building.1 THE PUBLIC: I'm just trying to make the2 planning board aware that there is a fire hazard unless3 the architect, Mr. Appel --4 MR. PLOCKER: Is there a question.5 THE PUBLIC: -- defines what it is --6 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: The buildings --7 THE PUBLIC: What is the standard of fire8 mitigation. That's the question.9 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: The buildings meet or10 exceed the New Jersey State fire code.11 THE PUBLIC: He said internally.12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: The building, I want to be13 very clear, the building is going to be evaluated by the14 building department of the Township of West Orange stem15 to stern. The building and materials will meet or16 exceed the fire code in the State of New Jersey.17 THE PUBLIC: And one more question.18 Can you go back to the building that has the19 12-foot exposure of the foundation, just so we can see20 that again.21 THE WITNESS: I think it's in this first22 packet. I believe it was, I can tell you what the23 exhibit was called. It was called A-3 dated 8/14/24.24 Yes, there it is. Bingo. You got it.25 44 So there's the reference line.1 THE PUBLIC: Can you please identify which2 building?3 THE WITNESS: That's Building D.4 THE PUBLIC: This is Building D?5 THE WITNESS: That's Building D.6 THE PUBLIC: And where is it 12 feet as the7 exposure of the foundation that's going to be visible?8 At what elevation.9 THE WITNESS: So this blue line in here that10 we've drawn is what the line would need to be to make11 this conforming.12 THE PUBLIC: And that's the western13 elevation?14 THE WITNESS: That's the western elevation.15 THE PUBLIC: So part of the building facing16 the west has a 12-foot foundation exposure, is what17 you're telling us?18 THE WITNESS: No, what I'm mentioning here19 is that the, this line, the ordinance measures building20 height from this first floor line. So we have an21 exposed foundation over here and when you balance off22 and do all the calculations per the ordinance, is that23 this is the conforming line. So we have a little bit24 that's left on the base of the building to, to make this25