September 11, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

13 of 71 sheets Page 49 to 52 of 180 09/27/2024 06:14:01 AM 49 THE PUBLIC: So what you're saying is it's1 not just exposed foundation of concrete?2 THE WITNESS: That's correct.3 THE PUBLIC: And the part that is, are you4 going to have any kind of cosmetic structural --5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am. Ma'am. Your time6 is up. Thank you. Thank you very much.7 Mr. Klein.8 MR. KLEIN: So Mr. Appel, so what's the9 height from the bottom of the vehicle to the top of the,10 whatever you measured, the top of the roof surface?11 Give me a ballpark. It's one, two -- it's six stories12 high. Six times 12, 70? Not even.13 THE WITNESS: I think it would be under 70.14 MR. KLEIN: Under 70. And you're allowed to15 be 75?16 THE WITNESS: 75 actually measured from this17 point.18 MR. KLEIN: Okay.19 THE WITNESS: So we're way, way under.20 MR. KLEIN: Well, in our ordinance it says21 the word, exposed foundation. Is there a foundation? I22 know there's a foundation to the building, but is it23 like a walkout basement on a house?24 THE WITNESS: It's very similar to a walkout25 50 basement on a house.1 MR. KLEIN: But it's going to be finished.2 It's not going to look like a basement and clapboard3 siding above?4 THE WITNESS: No. There's no exposed5 masonry.6 MR. KLEIN: Okay.7 THE WITNESS: And so exposed concrete. It's8 all finished just like it was facade.9 MR. KLEIN: Okay. Thank you.10 THE WITNESS: Regardless of whether it's a11 unit behind there or parking lot behind there.12 MR. KLEIN: Okay. Thank you.13 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.14 You're up, sir. Sir, all the way in the15 back, you're the last person. You're the last person to16 speak. Go ahead, sir.17 THE PUBLIC: My name is Howard Ruce, R-U-C-E18 from West Orange.19 Mr. Appel, you didn't assign any specific20 reason why the rooftop amenity, as you called it, was21 selected to be on Building D, is that correct?22 THE WITNESS: No, not correct specifically.23 THE PUBLIC: So if you were asked to24 redesign this building or to redesign any of these25 51 buildings to put that roof top amenity on one of the1 other buildings, would that be possible?2 THE WITNESS: Possible but not what we're3 proposing.4 THE PUBLIC: Okay.5 Can you then tell me why you're proposing it6 on Building D?7 THE WITNESS: It was decided that this8 building was going to have the rooftop amenities. It9 also has, the only building has internal amenities and10 we felt

e why you're proposing it6 on Building D?7 THE WITNESS: It was decided that this8 building was going to have the rooftop amenities. It9 also has, the only building has internal amenities and10 we felt that was, the combination, the correct11 combination. So this building has more internal12 amenities and has the roof amenities as well.13 THE PUBLIC: But the other amenities, like14 your dog spa or dog park and some of the other things15 are in the other buildings, correct? Or closer to the16 other buildings.17 THE WITNESS: Correct.18 THE PUBLIC: But theoretically it could be19 redesigned to have the rooftop away from Howell and away20 from Building D, is that correct?21 THE WITNESS: Theoretically. Theoretically,22 yes.23 THE PUBLIC: Thank you.24 THE WITNESS: You're welcome.25 52 THE PUBLIC: Rachel Klein, K-L-E-I-N.1 Howell Drive.2 I think we could just all say Building D,3 probably the goal is to try to get the city views and4 that's probably why that no one is changing Building D,5 we could stop asking about Building D. Building D is6 obviously the grand building that you're aiming for,7 that's why that type of building has different housing8 units as well.9 I just want to talk about the ridge line.10 Mr. Plocker talked about the dotted line versus the11 ridge line. There's an easement very clearly marked on12 the map and you can very easily see from the easement13 where Building D and how close Building D gets from what14 we like to call the ridge line, which is really a15 drop-off cliff and some of these points where the ridge16 lines actually exposed --17 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, ma'am, you're18 testifying.19 THE PUBLIC: Sorry.20 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: I need you to ask a21 question, please.22 THE PUBLIC: Okay. I just wanted to clear23 it up because it was said --24 MR. PLOCKER: And the applicant takes issue25