September 11, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

09/27/2024 06:14:01 AM Page 53 to 56 of 180 14 of 71 sheets 53 to the characteristic of the ridge line as a cliff.1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ma'am, ma'am, please ask a2 question. No more characterizations. Please ask a3 question. Okay.4 THE PUBLIC: I don't have a question.5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.6 THE PUBLIC: How you doing today. Eric7 Sampson, Bakley Terrace.8 On the first night you testified you had9 mentioned about the parking lot. That there were things10 that architects or buildings repeat when they work out11 well, so typically they keep doing them over and over,12 do you remember?13 THE WITNESS: With regard to maybe tandem14 parking, is that what you're --15 THE PUBLIC: I think so. You basically said16 this concept that people are repeating things over and17 over.18 THE WITNESS: Yes.19 THE PUBLIC: Can you give me three examples20 in this project that aren't from repeated projects that21 are relatively new ideas?22 THE WITNESS: I think this project was23 designed specifically for this, you know -- this project24 was designed specifically for this location. It was25 54 not, it doesn't exist anywhere else.1 THE PUBLIC: My understanding, the point is,2 the best practice gets repeated. So there's probably3 some things that weren't best practices here that4 haven't been repeated that are relatively new. So5 there's a good chance that there's some things that are6 going to go wrong, that builders don't repeat, right?7 THE WITNESS: I couldn't --8 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: I'm sorry, I don't9 understand the question. The goal is, at the end of the10 day, is that the planning board understand the question.11 So please, I'm trying to understand it so he can answer12 so we can use the information.13 THE PUBLIC: Sure. Understand.14 So when he was talking about the parking lot15 he had mentioned that when something works out well they16 use it over and over again. So many times things17 probably don't work out well. So I'm asking for18 examples of situations where in this project19 specifically there are things that they haven't done in20 other projects that they're repeating but rather they're21 relatively new concepts that are being tested out.22 There are many situations that people testified already23 about or asked questions about that things that have24 gone wrong in projects or they broke bedrock and cracked25 55 and thought it worked out and it didn't. So what

ns that people testified already23 about or asked questions about that things that have24 gone wrong in projects or they broke bedrock and cracked25 55 and thought it worked out and it didn't. So what I'm1 trying to understand is how many experiments are2 happening in this project.3 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Everything has to go to4 the building department. The building department has to5 look at each project, the fire department has to look at6 code. Everything will be up to code. So until they7 build something the answer is, nobody knows. And if8 there's an issue they will come back to the township and9 that's the way every project goes, so.10 THE PUBLIC: So even code has its flaws,11 right?12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Everything has it's flaws.13 But we, but our professionals, things will stop, they14 will be reevaluated and then the township will, through15 it's engineers, it's architects and other professionals16 decide how we should proceed and if need be they will17 come back to the planning board if things change that18 drastically.19 THE PUBLIC: Got it. I guess at least my20 next question is, can you give three examples of past21 projects that were similar size and scope --22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: I'm sorry, he didn't23 testify to that and that's not the planning boards24 purview. We hear about this application and this25 56 project. So I want to focus on what we need to hear in1 order to make a rational decision based on the facts.2 THE PUBLIC: So my concern is since he3 mentioned the parking scenario where things are repeated4 when they work out well. I want to hear situations that5 haven't been repeated because they didn't work out well6 on a similar sized project so we can go eyes open7 knowing that some things can go wrong, even with the8 code being followed, even with the plans being followed.9 There's a lot of experiments and newness coming in here10 which may end up going wrong.11 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: I understand your12 question. I'm going to refer to the attorney. I don't13 think this has anything to do with our application.14 There's an application before us that has the size of15 the structure and dimensions that is proposed and either16 it is or isn't within the guidelines and then the17 building department will evaluate it, the fire18 department will evaluate it, our engineers will evaluate19 it, so all our professionals will look at it, does it20 meet the

e guidelines and then the17 building department will evaluate it, the fire18 department will evaluate it, our engineers will evaluate19 it, so all our professionals will look at it, does it20 meet the requirements of the zone plan. So to your21 question --22 MS. MCGOVERN: I think I understood the23 question. It sounds to me like you're asking are they24 experimenting with anything in this project that might25