September 11, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

09/27/2024 06:14:01 AM Page 13 to 16 of 180 4 of 71 sheets 13 drop and the understory drops its leaves and one can1 generally see through woods, it's quite a long distance,2 you see buildings on the other end, isn't that correct?3 Potentially, yes. I mean, the, while the leaves4 A. will drop on deciduous trees, the, the limbs and trunks5 to the trees --6 Don't drop?7 Q. -- remain in intact.8 A. They remain intact.9 Q. But generally if you're driving by on the road in10 the middle of winter and you drive by the woods that11 otherwise would be full in the summer and the winter you12 could see straight through to the buildings on the other13 end of it, can't you?14 Potentially, yes.15 A. Okay.16 Q. Now, how many lighted windows will face the17 houses from Building D down the slope?18 I haven't counted those. I would have to count19 A. those. Typically they're, there are windows in20 bedrooms, there's windows in living, you know, living21 rooms, so the open areas. So there's typically windows22 in both of those. I would need to count the number of23 windows and the number of --24 Okay. That's fair.25 Q. 14 Would we say somewhere between 100 and 1501 probably?2 Couldn't even -- I, if I acknowledge that without3 A. counting I would be not be professional.4 That's fine.5 Q. It's fair to say that most of the building will6 be lighted windows? It's mostly going to be a glass7 building, isn't that correct?8 Not mostly glass. It's an opaque facade with9 A. windows but they're, there are generous windows. I10 don't know the exact percentage.11 Fair enough.12 Q. Now, during the winter those lighted windows will13 likely be visible to the houses on the base of the14 slope, isn't that fair to say?15 Could not say with certainty whether it's visible16 A. or not visible.17 Okay.18 Q. So we just don't know at this stage?19 I couldn't represent, you know, with certainty.20 A. Okay.21 Q. So you are not representing one way or the other,22 is that fair to say?23 That's correct.24 A. Okay.25 Q. 15 Could you turn to 4.4B. I just need a point of1 reference, please.2 You don't have a sight line I notice of a person3 standing on the ground in front of the house, do you?4 No. It was just one from reference point for5 A. vehicle and one for a reference point from the interior6 to the dwelling.7 Thank you.8 Q. Is there any viewpoint you have constructed or9 rendered from Howell

was just one from reference point for5 A. vehicle and one for a reference point from the interior6 to the dwelling.7 Thank you.8 Q. Is there any viewpoint you have constructed or9 rendered from Howell Avenue?10 You said from Howell Avenue?11 A. Yeah. Do we have any depiction of a viewpoint --12 Q. Howell Drive, my apologies.13 I believe this is, this house is on Howell Drive.14 A. You said Rosemont Terrace?15 Q. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.16 A. Okay. So that's the car on Howell Drive, is that17 Q. correct?18 Yeah, I have to apologize. I can't read those19 words from where I'm standing, so I didn't see Howell?20 MS. MCGOVERN: It says Howell Drive.21 MR. AFRAN: To me it's invisible, not the22 drawings fault, it's my fault.23 There is a very faint square image to Howell24 Q. Drive, is that the vehicle?25 16 Yes.1 A. I honestly can't see it.2 Q. So at this point you have sight lines -- what is3 the, what is the, I don't know the road specifically4 myself, so I'm going to ask you this, if you know. To5 the left of the car there appears to be a sort of an6 embankment, an angular part of the hill. Then there's a7 flat area with another type of embankment and then we go8 to the house. What is that first embankment like9 structure?10 My, my recollection is that there was a retaining11 A. wall in the front of that home and we were showing that12 diagrammatically.13 What number on Howell Drive?14 Q. I'm not sure which number it is.15 A. Have you looked at the viewpoint from other16 Q. houses on the road, except this one? Other than this17 one.18 This exhibit was just at this one point.19 A. Now, 4.4C, was that to be done at a singular20 Q. point as well?21 Yes.22 A. Okay.23 Q. So this doesn't represent the viewpoint from24 other houses on this street other than the one you25