September 11, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

7 of 71 sheets Page 25 to 28 of 180 09/27/2024 06:14:01 AM 25 nail it down a little better.1 Basically what -- I mean listen, I can't2 Q. understand why you would have a supply chain problem in3 getting a stove for the affordable unit but not for the4 unit across the hall, that market rate. Seems to me5 they should all be coming in together. So that's what6 I'm trying to get to.7 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: If they all come in at the8 same time, the planning board does condition that they9 all be used in both units at the same time. It would10 not be that one gets -- all market rate get this and11 affordable don't. You're finishing a quadrant that12 quadrant get's those units all at the same time.13 MR. AFRAN: I appreciate that. I'm not14 criticizing Mr. Appel, but I don't think his answer was15 quite specific.16 Is that your understanding, that the market rate17 Q. and the affordable's will get the same appliances when18 they're ordered from the manufacturer?19 MR. PLOCKER: I'm going to answer it. The20 way Chairman Bagoff phrased it, that condition of21 approval would be acceptable to the applicant.22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Is that okay, Mr. Afran?23 MR. AFRAN: That's fine.24 Thank you, Mr. Plocker.25 26 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.1 Is there a view from Building D from the top of2 Q. the ridge, that's something you've taken into3 consideration in sighting the units?4 Can you repeat that? Just clarify that.5 A. Is there a view to the human eye from the6 Q. apartments from the top of the ridge in Building D that7 you've taken into account in situating the affordable8 units versus the market rate units?9 So what you're saying is that is the, there was10 A. not a specific reason why affordable units were located11 let's say close to the right side of the building or the12 left side of the building for purposes of view. They13 were done more for stacking.14 Well, no, but I what I'm asking is, on the15 Q. opposite side of the hall, that will be the side that16 looks out from the top of the ridge, is that correct?17 Strike that. I'll rephrase that.18 The side of the hall opposite the affordable19 units, will that be the side that looks out over the20 ridge and gets the view?21 The, the side that looks out toward the east is22 A. the deeper side of the hallway and there is no23 affordable units located there.24 Is that the side that gets the view from the top25 Q. 27 of the

The, the side that looks out toward the east is22 A. the deeper side of the hallway and there is no23 affordable units located there.24 Is that the side that gets the view from the top25 Q. 27 of the ridge?1 I mean, all, all of, you know, there's views in2 A. all directions from the buildings.3 I said from the top -- I'll will rephrase my4 Q. question. Let's get specific.5 So in the eastern direction there are no6 A. affordable units looking easterly from Building D.7 I'll accept that. Thank you.8 Q. I do have questions about Howell Road an Kuzik,9 but I don't know if that's something Mr. Appel is,10 whether it's within the scope of his work on this case.11 Are you conversant with the placement of the entry and12 exit points and the road structure or is that something13 for another witness?14 Not part of my responsibility.15 A. You've gone into this and I apologize, I don't16 Q. think I have a specific note on it. I may not have17 heard you clearly when you were going through it. Can18 you explain again what is the variance that is being19 sought here?20 So inside the ordinance there is a provision21 A. which is shown, let me pull up --22 Oh, I'm sorry, you're referring to the exterior23 Q. wall that's going to be exposed above the grade?24 Correct.25 A. 28 Okay. I reminded myself as you were looking.1 Q. That was the only thing I gave testimony on for a2 A. variance.3 That's good.4 Q. I want to clarify one bit of nomenclature, the5 term ridge line and the term pinch line have been used.6 Can you explain whether there's a distinction between7 the high point of the ridge and the pinch line or are8 they the same?9 I'm not familiar with what you call, pinch line,10 A. because I don't know that I used that terminology. But11 the ridge line is something that was drawn on the map.12 It is not necessarily a ridge but it is a reference line13 that was established for purposes of the ordinance and14 Settlement Agreement.15 I know, I think Mr. Anderson was referring to a16 Q. pinch line reference. The word pinch line has been used17 in this --18 MR. PLOCKER: I believe people, excuse me19 Mr. Afran for interrupting. I believe people have used20 the word pinch point, I don't recall pinch line. And I21 believe, unless anyone wants to correct me, I believe22 that people were referring to pinch point as the closest23 point of Building D to the dotted line.24 I appreciate

n't recall pinch line. And I21 believe, unless anyone wants to correct me, I believe22 that people were referring to pinch point as the closest23 point of Building D to the dotted line.24 I appreciate that correction. My point was pinch25 Q.