October 30, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

37 of 80 sheets Page 145 to 148 of 203 11/06/2024 03:21:43 PM 145 up, yes.1 THE PUBLIC: How many gates do they plan on2 putting in there?3 THE WITNESS: How many?4 THE PUBLIC: Gates.5 THE WITNESS: That hasn't been finalized yet,6 but generally I would expect one or maybe two and they7 would be up here. That would be the plan if they want8 people in this area. I haven't discussed this with9 them. This is pretty steep.10 THE PUBLIC: I know. The gates, you see11 there's a sewer line that goes through.12 THE WITNESS: Yeah, the sewer line is right13 here.14 THE PUBLIC: Yeah. So the sewer line is15 under investigation right now by the county and the16 state, so you can't block it. Like it's got to be17 accessible.18 THE WITNESS: Yeah, as far as I understand,19 that's true, but I can't testify to that. But I20 understand there's a sewer line and they have to deal21 with that.22 THE PUBLIC: Is that orange line a sewer23 line also?24 THE WITNESS: No, no, sorry. That's my25 146 line. That is trying to show you, I did this in a1 earlier map. This is the limit of the ridge here, so2 it's just trying to show that this is the, and believe3 me this is not to scale, bear with me on this, I'm not4 an architect.5 THE PUBLIC: I can tell, it's a little --6 THE WITNESS: Yeah, it's a little squiggly,7 my hands not that firm. This is showing that basically8 any water that falls on this side of the line is going9 to go this way and any water that falls on that side of10 the line is going to go that way.11 THE PUBLIC: Okay.12 THE WITNESS: Think of it as a continental13 divide.14 THE PUBLIC: I wrote my questions down and15 two hours past, so I need a minute.16 So you said you walked the property but17 you're not that familiar with the east. There's vernal18 water in the east.19 THE WITNESS: In here?20 THE PUBLIC: Yeah.21 THE WITNESS: Yeah. There's some, yes.22 THE PUBLIC: And you're not going to be23 putting any of the fencing into it, right? Because it24 goes pretty much down to Mayfair Drive, which the fence25 147 looks like it goes to.1 THE WITNESS: You know, again, this is a2 conceptual layout with them.3 THE PUBLIC: So it may not be that big?4 THE WITNESS: It may be. Vernal ponds, I5 have to look at the regulations. I would have to defer6 to the planner for that because I'm not going to quote7 on that. But typically if they, again, the posts don't8 have to be perfect in

ponds, I5 have to look at the regulations. I would have to defer6 to the planner for that because I'm not going to quote7 on that. But typically if they, again, the posts don't8 have to be perfect in alignment. So you might be on9 either side of that and they'll have to work on that.10 THE PUBLIC: Yeah.11 THE WITNESS: The goal is not to disturb12 this.13 THE PUBLIC: But it's a pretty nice space.14 Also there's things like milkweed on the15 northern side, a lot of it, that's protected too. And16 you're fence, I know it's your, just a rendering, but it17 also kind of goes right through that. So you're going18 to have to come more south to avoid --19 THE WITNESS: I mean, if it has to go into20 the milkweed area, truthfully botanically I'm not21 worried about few a milkweed plants are disturbed by a22 post. We can collect the seeds and redisperse them.23 The good news is growing back in there they'll have a24 better chance of surviving.25 148 THE PUBLIC: Out of curiosity, if three to1 five years it doesn't regenerate, like you're hoping it2 will, is there any plan for what we're going to do when3 you, you know, look back on this and say, oh, the deer4 fence didn't work?5 THE WITNESS: I can't, again, guarantee6 anything in terms of growth in an area obviously, but I7 would say to you, I have yet to read any studies of deer8 fencing that say it doesn't work and you don't get9 regrowth. So this would become a first.10 THE PUBLIC: Sorry, I lost my question.11 Sorry, if I think of it I'll come back. Sorry. If I12 find my question I'll come back. Sorry.13 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.14 Come right up. State your name for the15 record, sir.16 THE PUBLIC: Patrick Laterza, L-A-T-E-R-Z-A.17 I live in Verona.18 So I know we've gone over this a lot, but19 I'm going to go back to it. The math of the 212 tree20 credit. So -- per acre credit. So how are you coming21 to the credit of 212 trees in the deer fenced area? Are22 we saying you're going to expect twice as many trees to23 grow in that area?24 THE WITNESS: No. The tree credit is based25