December 11, 2024 Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

01/08/2025 12:06:06 PM Page 29 to 32 of 100 8 of 38 sheets 29 So when you say, randomization, the computer1 chose randomized spots within those light green lines,2 fair to say?3 Yes, it was given parameters. That's what you do4 A. with a computer, correct.5 And then, and it seems to be fairly evenly6 Q. distributed numbers throughout the green lines, would7 you agree with that?8 I haven't plotted the distance between it, the9 A. computer will pick whatever distance it deems necessary.10 Mr. DeFeo, you're looking at it with your eyes11 Q. like I am. I'm asking you a question.12 I haven't measured it.13 A. Mr. DeFeo --14 Q. But I would say it seems it's very evenly15 A. distributed. Yeah, I would say that.16 That wasn't so hard. Thank you. That's all I'm17 Q. asking.18 And then I want to clarify exactly the next19 stage. Then people you work with, you or others, chose20 numbers that the computer picked and took a selection,21 is that correct?22 Yes, in order to maximize the distribution of the23 A. study.24 Right. In other words, the computer chose random25 Q. 30 numbered sites and they look fairly evenly distributed1 within the green lines?2 Correct.3 A. You directed it to do that and then your staff or4 Q. people you work with chose circled areas within that,5 fair to say?6 That's fair, yes.7 A. And each of those circled areas represents a 108 Q. by 10 section?9 Correct, 100 square feet.10 A. Okay. Good.11 Q. Now, let's turn to the tree survey from 2010,12 Exhibit O-3. If you can put that on the screen.13 I don't have that.14 A. No. Thank you.15 Q. I'm sorry, just so I can correct the record. I16 A. keep saying 100 square feet, it's 100 square meters.17 It's 10 meters by 10 meters, I'm sorry. I've been18 traveling to Europe and back and I don't know whether19 I'm metric or English right now.20 So wait a minute. Your survey --21 Q. 100 square meters, sorry. 10 meters by 1022 A. meters, that's the standard. I apologize.23 They're in metric not feet, correct?24 Q. That's metric. That's what we should be using.25 A. 31 I apologize.1 MS. McGOVERN: This is O-3, right? What we2 have up on here.3 MR. AFRAN: I can't see very well, but looks4 like it is.5 THE WITNESS: Oh, you're asking me.6 MS. McGOVERN: No, I just want the exhibit7 number for the record. It's O-3.8 MR. ALPER: Mr. DeFeo, I don't know this IS9 really relevant, but if you're, if you should do the10 math

you're asking me.6 MS. McGOVERN: No, I just want the exhibit7 number for the record. It's O-3.8 MR. ALPER: Mr. DeFeo, I don't know this IS9 really relevant, but if you're, if you should do the10 math in metric, the 100 meter plots instead of 10011 square foot plots, does that change the percentage of12 the acreage that you cover?13 THE WITNESS: No, it doesn't really change14 it, because we work off conclusions. I just misstated15 it.16 Exhibit O-3 doesn't indicate feet or meters --17 Q. I apologize.18 A. -- so I'm assuming they used meters as well, but19 Q. doesn't change it one way or the other.20 All right. So if we could zero in -- well, first21 let's leave it like that for the moment.22 Mr. DeFeo, you see in the screen there are three23 square areas. One in the top center, one on the left24 bottom and one in the middle right, do you see those?25 32 Yes.1 A. Okay.2 Q. Those are the crosshatched areas on the printed3 exhibit and that represents the areas they surveyed in4 2007 to 2010, right?5 Yes.6 A. And so on the actual exhibit when you zero in on7 Q. it, they're diagonal lines, they're not crosshatched,8 they're diagonal lines. So these three squares, those9 are the 10,000, I'm assuming it's meters as well, square10 meters?11 I think they have it as 10,000 square feet.12 A. I don't know whether it is or not. Let's assume13 Q. feet for the sake of argument. All right.14 Okay.15 A. Those are the 10,000 square foot areas that you16 Q. referred to earlier, correct?17 Yes.18 A. Okay. Good.19 Q. So now if we could now zoom in on --20 10,000 square feet.21 A. Yeah. So actually if we look at the right side,22 Q. now this is another development plan for single family23 homes, but you can see basically the square area on the24 right side is essentially in, roughly, in the middle of25