June 30, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

08/07/2025 02:56:42 PM Page 5 to 8 of 175 2 of 70 sheets 5 MS. McGOVERN: Objectors attorney. To what1 dates would be available for those Wednesday's, because2 we do have a temporary, I think, reservation on this3 room so we can continue to do them.4 I know Mr. Plocker, you told me every5 Wednesday is good for you. All of them?6 MR. PLOCKER: That's correct. Beginning7 July 9 through July 30.8 MS. McGOVERN: And Mr. Afran?9 MR. AFRAN: I could do every Wednesday, but10 I don't think, I can't -- I've been trying to ascertain11 the dates when our experts are coming in and there's the12 traffic engineer, the planner and potentially after he13 hears this gentleman's testimony, a geophysics response.14 So I am trying to get dates together and I don't have15 them, unfortunately. I would hope -- I would, I'm free16 any Wednesday. I would almost rather not meet next17 Wednesday only so we get a break because frankly, it's18 not for vacations purposes, I have briefs to write. But19 I would, I am free any Wednesday but I prefer to have a20 little gap between now and the 16th. I am trying to get21 dates. Now, I am thinking by the 16th I might be able22 to do that. I will probably know more tomorrow or23 Thursday.24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Afran, how many more25 6 people do you want to have present before the Planning1 Board?2 MR. AFRAN: There's definitely three3 experts, there's possible a fourth. I've been trying to4 ascertain that from one of my clients.5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Can they all be here on6 one night?7 MR. AFRAN: I hear a voice that's telling me8 no way. So based on the voice I have to say no. I9 really can't evaluate yet. I mean, you know, a traffic10 engineer, a planner, the geotechnical response, if11 there's any, probably won't be that long, I imagine.12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: We can't have a meeting13 that goes for an hour and a half. We need to use the14 full evening.15 MR. AFRAN: I think, I know we will use the16 full evening when the experts are here, I don't think it17 would be done in one night. So when I get that date18 ascertained we will be here the whole night. I just --19 I don't want to do one hour and a half either. Frankly20 it's very, I sympathize with all of you when you do all21 these meetings all year. It's very difficult,22 especially balancing other cases. So when we get those23 experts dates ascertained it will be a whole night and24 probably still

f you when you do all21 these meetings all year. It's very difficult,22 especially balancing other cases. So when we get those23 experts dates ascertained it will be a whole night and24 probably still spillover. But it's not going to be an25 7 hour and then we're done.1 MS. McGOVERN: We need another night to2 preserve the notice.3 MR. AFRAN: I would certainly say the 16th.4 Wednesday, July 16.5 MR. PLOCKER: That would work. Can we just6 ascertain, Chairman Bagoff, are there any objector7 witnesses here tonight to testify?8 MR. AFRAN: Yes.9 MR. PLOCKER: Okay. Who is that?10 MR. AFRAN: Paul Tractenberg, Rachel Klein,11 Mayor Ed Davis and Marea DePalma.12 MR. PLOCKER: Okay. And my understanding13 was that the planner was coming tonight, I believe that14 was represented.15 MR. AFRAN: That's what I was originally16 told but he can't. So that's one of the ones that's up17 in the air.18 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay. Let's get the last19 two Wednesday's, the 16th and the following Wednesday20 and finish it up.21 MR. AFRAN: There's three Wednesday's in22 July.23 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: 16th and 23rd.24 MR. KLEIN: Five Wednesdays in July.25 8 MR. AFRAN: Well, I meant after that.1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Use those two to finish up2 the case, please. That's what we're going to work on.3 MR. AFRAN: I couldn't hear you.4 MS. McGOVERN: All right. So we're5 tentatively looking for July 16 and July 23. I have to6 find out from the board if we have a quorum from those7 who are here.8 MR. AFRAN: Can I step out for one minute,9 I'm sorry, I want to clarify this.10 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Go right ahead.11 (Whereupon, a short recess is taken.)12 MR. AFRAN: I'm trying to ascertain when13 these experts will be here. I believe --14 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: One second.15 Back on the record.16 MR. AFRAN: I believe shooting for the 16th17 as the next meeting will be productive in that respect.18 I do not know whether these experts or all our witnesses19 will finish in two nights. There are two additional20 individuals who are expected to testify. They won't be21 massively long but I don't know we'll be finished in two22 nights. So I would suggest within the next two days I'm23 going to try and get commitments from the experts I've24 been talking to on what dates they will be here and25