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Minutes · Jun 30, 2025

June 30, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

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3 of 70 sheets Page 9 to 12 of 175 08/07/2025 02:56:42 PM 9 hopefully that will be July 16 and I should be able in1 two days or so. I'm hoping to communicate with Diana2 with more specific information but I would look to the3 16th as a date when at least two experts will be here.4 I'm hoping the geotechnical engineer, who is listening5 tonight, is going to testify and will be ready because I6 think he'll be, engineers are usually efficient. So I7 think that will work. So I would expect we'll have8 people on the 16th but I am not saying we can finish in9 two nights.10 MS. McGOVERN: I'm going to make the11 recommendation we notify the newspapers that we're12 having two special meetings Jamilet, both the 16th and13 the 23rd.14 MR. AFRAN: Let me ask a question, if I can.15 When does the community commentary fit in the schedule?16 You might as well say the 30th too, since there's going17 to have to be at least a night for their commentary.18 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Yes.19 MAYOR McCARTNEY: So seems to me that so20 many people are not available on the 23rd, can we move21 it to the 30th?22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: We have a quorum for the23 23rd?24 MR. KLEIN: We have it for the 16th.25 10 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: The 16th. We have a1 quorum for both?2 MR. PLOCKER: Applicant is good for the 30th3 as well.4 MR. AFRAN: Can I mention one thing, it's5 been made known to me that it's difficult for many6 people to hear back here and I am actually having7 trouble hearing.8 MAYOR McCARTNEY: I was suggesting moving9 the 23rd to the 30th if more people would be available.10 MR. AFRAN: That certainly works for me.11 I'd like to be able to get all these witnesses in and12 I'm sure we will. I'm happy with that, to skip the 23rd13 and do the 16th and the 30th. But then we would need, I14 am sure, a full night for the community statements, then15 we need to have closing arguments and board16 deliberations. So those, at least a night for the17 community, I don't know how long it will take, and then18 we have to do final arguments.19 And there was one question I had for the20 Chair. I'd say announce the 30th at the same time.21 MS. McGOVERN: All right. We'll do the22 announcement also for 30th, right. The applicants free.23 That doesn't -- we didn't ask the board if they're24 available for the 30th.25 11 MR. AFRAN: I didn't mean to presume, sorry.1 MS. McGOVERN: So let's -- that's four2 meetings in July.

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plicants free.23 That doesn't -- we didn't ask the board if they're24 available for the 30th.25 11 MR. AFRAN: I didn't mean to presume, sorry.1 MS. McGOVERN: So let's -- that's four2 meetings in July. People go on vacation, that's a lot.3 So you have the regular meeting on Wednesday.4 MAYOR McCARTNEY: The 16th and the 30th.5 MS. McGOVERN: Okay. This is -- so what6 we're going to do is notice for all three meetings. On7 the 16th we'll figure out whether it's going to be the8 23rd or the 30th, but we'll have that part done and9 we'll preserve your notice, Mr. Plocker, one way or10 another. Whether we're going to the 23rd or we're going11 to the 30th.12 MR. PLOCKER: Thank you. Appreciate that.13 MR. AFRAN: I had a question. We talked14 about the board holding a work session. Did the Chair15 envision that would be before we had final arguments?16 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: No, after final arguments.17 MR. AFRAN: Okay.18 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: The board has do a little19 homework.20 MR. PLOCKER: When you say, work session, do21 you mean deliberation?22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Deliberation.23 MS. McGOVERN: Not work session.24 MR. AFRAN: That was Mr. Bagoff's phrase, so25 12 I used his phrase.1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: It would be public meeting2 deliberation.3 MR. AFRAN: So looks like we're going to4 need at least two nights after the 30th to fit all that5 in, community, closing arguments and deliberation.6 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Let's see how it goes.7 MR. AFRAN: Let's see how it goes. Okay.8 I had one other matter of housekeeping I was9 asked to raise. I know it's very difficult actually to10 keep up with it, Jamilet has a big burden, we notice11 there aren't regular minutes on this case and the12 transcript isn't posted. I think the transcripts after13 January may not have yet been posted, but no minutes as14 well. So some people depend on the minutes, not the15 lawyers, but some people depend on those. I was asked16 to bring that to the boards attention that since there17 are no minutes being posted at the moment, no18 transcripts, people have no ability to follow up at this19 stage.20 MS. McGOVERN: They can listen to the21 meeting, the video is right on the website.22 MR. AFRAN: No, I understand but there is a23 legal duty about minutes at some point.24 MS. McGOVERN: Understood. And Jamilet is25

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