June 30, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

5 of 70 sheets Page 17 to 20 of 175 08/07/2025 02:56:42 PM 17 additional testing were the test sites, did you do1 similar to what they had suggested by the objectors?2 THE WITNESS: Yes, I believe the proposed3 borings and test pit locations were consistent with what4 was being asked as well as what I felt was5 professionally expected.6 MR. PLOCKER: Can I just clarify.7 Mr. Seel, did you review your testimony from8 the prior meeting?9 THE WITNESS: Yes, I did.10 MR. PLOCKER: Thank you.11 MR. AFRAN: Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I am not12 sure it was an objector who requested it. I didn't make13 any request, I am not sure where the request came from.14 I thought it came from the board or the board staff. So15 I just want to clarify, I don't recall the objectors16 making any request. I think Mayor McCartney might have17 misspoke on that point.18 MR. PLOCKER: I think --19 MS. McGOVERN: It was a Princeton Hydro20 person.21 MR. AFRAN: Okay. You're referring to the22 expert who spoke.23 MAYOR McCARTNEY: Yes.24 MR. AFRAN: Thank you.25 18 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Anymore questions?1 MAYOR McCARTNEY: No. Thank you.2 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Klein?3 MR. KLEIN: No questions.4 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Vice Chair Guarino?5 VICE CHAIRMAN GUARINO: No questions, Mr.6 Chairman.7 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Alper?8 MR. ALPER: Possibly.9 On the 25th of February the Planning Board10 heard from Princeton Hydro, John Walsh, are you familiar11 with that testimony?12 THE WITNESS: On February -- no, I was not.13 MR. ALPER: Okay.14 So no matter what's in -- is anything that's15 in the new report in response to the claims that were16 made by the Princeton Hydro report, the presentation17 that came after the initial reports?18 THE WITNESS: Firstly, I don't know if I19 reviewed that.20 MR. ALPER: Okay. Thank you.21 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Cardoza?22 MR. CARDOZA: No questions.23 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Ms. Kapferer?24 MS. KAPFERER: Quick question, I think25 19 similar to Mr. Alper's question. So you didn't do any1 analysis related to groundwater or anything like that?2 You were strictly focused on the stability, is that3 correct?4 THE WITNESS: Well, we looked at5 groundwater, anything below the ground. All conditions,6 soil, rock, water conditions.7 MS. KAPFERER: And what did you find related8 to groundwater?9 THE WITNESS: We did not see groundwater10 table in any borings. We did borings and test pits from11 this last round closer to

conditions.7 MS. KAPFERER: And what did you find related8 to groundwater?9 THE WITNESS: We did not see groundwater10 table in any borings. We did borings and test pits from11 this last round closer to the end of the wet season as12 is defined by the DEP and we found no groundwater in the13 borings.14 MS. KAPFERER: And did you do any mottling?15 THE WITNESS: We looked for it, we didn't16 notice any mottling shown in the test pit log.17 MS. KAPFERER: Okay. That's it for my18 questions.19 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. MacNeill?20 MR. MacNEILL: Just one question. Is it21 common to not find mottling in your soil borings or test22 pits?23 THE WITNESS: Mottling is not always24 present. It's indicative of changes in the water table25 20 and that's one of the reasons that often it's required1 for the stormwater world, but it's not always found. It2 can be done, depending on soil conditions.3 MR. MacNEILL: Okay. So in your experience4 there are instances where the mottling has not been5 found?6 THE WITNESS: Often, yes.7 MR. MacNEILL: That's all I have.8 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Haizel, any questions?9 MR. HAIZEl: No questions at this point.10 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Afran.11 MR. AFRAN: Thank you.12 Mr. Seel, were you doing these tests in your13 Q. understanding in response to Mr. Walsh's report or in14 response to some other stimulation?15 I don't know who Mr. Walsh is, so.16 A. He is from Princeton Hydro.17 Q. CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: One second. I forgot18 Council Person Scarpa. My fault.19 COUNCIL PERSON SCARPA: I have no questions.20 I was going to remind you, but I don't have any21 questions.22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.23 MR. AFRAN: Good to hear your voice.24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Plocker.25