July 30, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

15 of 33 sheets Page 57 to 60 of 130 09/16/2025 06:29:53 AM 57 No, I didn't.1 A. Okay.2 Q. So you didn't ask them about their flow, about3 their capacity?4 No, I didn't have time to do that. That all5 A. needs to be looked at.6 Okay.7 Q. Who ultimately approves water and sewer. You8 could take them one at a time. Does the applicant have9 to go to the DEP?10 MR. AFRAN: Objection. That's a vague11 question. Do you go to the DEP about water and sewer,12 did he testify about that.13 What approvals, what third-party approvals-- does14 Q. the applicant need to connect for water service and15 sewer service, separate questions?16 Well, the water is going to have to go to17 A. American Water.18 Okay.19 Q. And you didn't contact them, correct?20 No.21 A. Okay.22 Q. What about sewer, what third-party approvals does23 the applicant need to connect to sewer?24 He has to go to the local sewer authority. I25 A. 58 believe it's in the county.1 Does the DEP have any role in that process?2 Q. Who?3 A. The Department of Environmental Protection, do4 Q. they have a role in the process?5 MR. AFRAN: In the process of approving the6 connection or in the process of what?7 I don't think they have any in that particular8 A. area. They have a lot of role in what the sewer9 authority does with the water.10 Would the applicant need to obtain a treatment11 Q. works approval known as a TWA?12 This is something I'm not familiar with.13 A. MR. AFRAN: Mr. Chairman, I wonder if this14 has anything to do with the absence of any connection15 between the waste system from the buildings and any16 other system.17 MR. PLOCKER: I'm asking him my questions,18 Mr. Chairman.19 MR. AFRAN: Well, because I'm objecting on20 relevance grounds. If crossing -- excuse me. The21 testimony on direct was that there's nothing in the22 plans showing any connection between the sewage removal23 in these 500 apartments and the ability to move it to24 anywhere else. In other words, we have sewage coming25 59 from the apartments. There's a pipe shown --1 MR. PLOCKER: Now he's testifying.2 MR. AFRAN: No, I am summarizing. And this3 is all --4 MR. PLOCKER: And I cannot cross --5 MR. AFRAN: This has also been acknowledged6 by the applicants own engineer, which Mr. Plocker seems7 to conveniently forget. The testimony from this witness8 was the absence of these things in the plans. He's not9 testifying as to what post plan

y the applicants own engineer, which Mr. Plocker seems7 to conveniently forget. The testimony from this witness8 was the absence of these things in the plans. He's not9 testifying as to what post plan regulatory aspects are10 needed. This is beyond the scope of direct.11 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Go ahead, Mr. Plocker.12 MR. PLOCKER: Mr. Chairman, the testimony13 was very general. Mr. Afran is referring to off-site14 sewer conditions, which this witness did not15 specifically testify to. He said there was no sewer16 plan. He said he doesn't know where it was going. So17 I'm going to ask the witness, do the plans show a sewer18 connection to a manhole in Bakley Terrace?19 I did not see such a thing.20 A. CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay. That's the answer.21 Okay.22 Q. MR. PLOCKER: I have no further questions at23 this time.24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.25 60 Ms. Kapferer.1 MS. KAPFERER: Thank you Mr. Green for2 your testimony.3 Chairman, may I ask a question of Mr. MacNeill at4 this time or related to this. Is that not appropriate?5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Let's get around the board6 and come back.7 MS. KAPFERER: Okay. Yeah, that sounds8 good.9 That's all I really have then.10 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Wilkes.11 MR. WILKES: No questions.12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Vice Chairman Guarino.13 VICE CHAIRMAN GUARINO: Yes, thank you Mr.14 Chairman.15 Mr. Green, thank you for being here this evening.16 Sir, can I ask you, did you personally review the17 applicants site, the physical site? Have you been to18 the site.19 THE WITNESS: Actually, I was there today.20 VICE CHAIRMAN GUARINO: How long ago?21 THE WITNESS: I was there today. It's a22 very large site. So definitely did not survey the site.23 VICE CHAIRMAN GUARINO: So you haven't been24 to the site physically?25