Minutes · Oct 23, 2025
October 23, 2025, Special Meeting
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Show all pagesChairperson Neuer asked if newly approved/submitted in the township were taken into account when doing this study. Mr. Savage said that one approved project, the convenience store on the southeast corner of Eagle Rock Avenue and Prospect Avenue added to the existing Exxon Gas Station was examined. However that generally projects submitted but not yet approved are not taken into account during their studies Chairperson Neuer asked if he was aware of the Planning Board approval of the West Orange Plaza. Mr. Savage said that he was not until now. BD Scott, asked what Mr. Savage means by site generated trips, and if this is a projection of how many trips cars are going to be going to these two establishments if they are approved, and how that type of a projection is made. Mr. Savage answered that the industry data published by the Institute’s engineers is evaluated. It essentially collects and collates this data from various locations throughout the country. BD Scott asked for confirmation of whether any specific studies have been made involving West Orange Essex County or New Jersey. Mr. Savage answered no.But as mentioned, the opportunity to do trip, generation, parking and queueing counts at three Popeyes locations in New Jersey has occurred. BD Scott asked why locations so far away and so very different in their traffic patterns from right here in West Orange and Essex County are part of this study. Mr. Savage said that specifically looking at Popeyes locations that had a single drive through, which is consistent with the development here. Some Popeyes locations essentially have two order boards that merge into one pickup lane. Specifically looking and counted the locations that were similar to the single drive through location. BD Scott asked if testing included weekends or holidays? Mr. Savage said it included Saturdays. Yes, Saturdays but it did not include holidays. William Michael Barbee asked coming out of the parking lot, making a left, meaning, going out the parking lot, across the lane, making a left from either driveway, considering that that is a yellow strip, a solid yellow strip, will it be an illegal turn, making the left to go west on Eagle Rock? Mr. Savage said No. The double yellow line generally means no passing so turns into or out of driveways are permitted. W.M. Barbee asked about the trip generated data. When the analysis of the
Rock? Mr. Savage said No. The double yellow line generally means no passing so turns into or out of driveways are permitted. W.M. Barbee asked about the trip generated data. When the analysis of the drive thrus, was done, did those existing comparisons also have IHOP traffic in the parking lot as well. Mr. Savage said that they did not know. WM Barbee said now that there is an IHOP with other traffic in the parking lot. Does that back up the does that block the intersection of Rosney Terrace with other traffic? Mr. Savage said that they accounted for both the Popeyes and the IHOP traffic in the traffic study, and based on that, they didn't identify any capacity concems at either the Rosney Terrace intersection or of the two (2) site driveways. L. Cohen, asked if there's going to be spillover parking for Popeyes in this 15 space application site. Mr. Savage responded that he doesn't believe there will be. The maximum counted occupied spaces at those locations was, was about 10 to 11 vehicles. So the 15, in my opinion, should be sufficient to support just the Popeyes itself. So even though they do have large parking supplies, the demand actually counted and identified at those locations was only 10 to 11 vehicles parking. L. Cohen, asked if he thinks the neighbors of Popeyes West Orange, have warrant to worry about spillover parking on their residential streets? Mr. Savage opined no that the proposed parking provided sufficient. Looking at the Ordinance, the site meets the Ordinance requirement, and as mentioned, this extensive Popeyes data does show that the 15 spaces in a requirement allocated to Popeyes is more than sufficient. Robin Miller asked in confirmation that the stores studied were just single Popeyes, not a combo restaurant. Mr. Savage said that he was not aware of that. R. Miller, asked for clarification of about population growth as a factor when doing his study. Did he mean population growth of the township of people, like new housing At
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