October 29, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting - WEHI Transcript

11/19/2025 04:42:31 PM Page 141 to 144 of 149 36 of 59 sheets 141 THE PUBLIC: My other question is, the1 heights of the building, were they, you mentioned they2 were all in the concept plan, I forget what you said?3 THE WITNESS: So what I said is the4 ordinance permits the maximum height of 75 feet in this5 zone. The concept plan, again, it's attached to this,6 it's not very legible but it doesn't talk about what the7 proposed height is, because I believe it was a concept8 plan then. But I believe the site plan and the9 architectural plan talks to the height of the building,10 the proposed height of the building is 47.5 and they11 meet the ordinance.12 THE PUBLIC: Okay.13 And on the concept plan, the site plan with14 regard to Building D, was there any other units shown15 with a rooftop terrace?16 THE WITNESS: So the concept plan, again,17 was schematically drawn, so it doesn't get to the18 details of showing roof terraces, but I believe the site19 plan showed that.20 THE PUBLIC: And you're familiar that21 Building D only has one rooftop terrace?22 THE WITNESS: I believe so, yes.23 THE PUBLIC: Okay. Thank you.24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.25 142 Would anyone else from the public have a1 question about the testimony? Seeing none.2 Thank you very much.3 Mr. Afran, after hearing all this, do you4 have any expert you would like to testify?5 MR. AFRAN: I don't know why I have to keep6 saying this. I have said specifically we need to see7 CME's testimony and the geotechnical issues. I also8 said that based on the report that was filed today, CME9 is asking the applicant for very substantial additional10 submissions and therefore we don't know until we hear11 CME testify and we hear what the applicant has to say in12 response. I just can't answer that.13 MR. PLOCKER: And in response to that, Mr.14 Chairman.15 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Go right ahead.16 MR. PLOCKER: One of the items that was17 referenced in that report, which will be testified to at18 the next meeting, we believe was done and it just may19 have been an oversight. So that's something that we're20 going to figure out, because like Mr. Afran, we did21 receive the report today.22 MR. AFRAN: I'm not saying yes or no whether23 they were done or not. I'm just saying we just can't24 tell because we hadn't had a chance to go over it.25 143 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay. How long do you1 need to go over them?2 MR. AFRAN: When

whether23 they were done or not. I'm just saying we just can't24 tell because we hadn't had a chance to go over it.25 143 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay. How long do you1 need to go over them?2 MR. AFRAN: When is CME going testify?3 MS. McGOVERN: They're coming the meeting,4 November 10.5 MR. PLOCKER: Mr. Chairman, it was my6 understanding that the CME from here on out it would be7 the last word as the boards advisor. We are not talking8 about any additional witnesses, I don't think, are we?9 MR. AFRAN: Well, we don't know what CME is10 going to say yet. If they introduce new materials it11 might monk that. I'm not looking for it, but we can't12 say for sure there can't be anymore testimony. We need13 to hear what CME says. We have to review it. I don't14 believe Mr. Plocker and I had a chance to go over it in15 detail.16 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: During your review from17 today and then you will see if you need to have any18 other testimony.19 MR. AFRAN: Look, I can't guarantee20 anything, but I am sure between November 10 we can21 review those issues, provided Mr. Goll is available and22 I am sure he will be available during that period.23 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Contact the board attorney24 and let her know.25 144 MR. AFRAN: As soon as we have an answer,1 yes. But also remember, it does depend on what CME2 testifies to. I can't give --3 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: I understand. That's one4 testimony. I'm trying to figure out if there's anything5 else --6 MR. AFRAN: The only other thing that came7 about, Mr. Plocker submitted, I'm not faulting the8 timing, the additional documents from the 19809 agreement. I have to read them, I haven't read them.10 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Trying to do some magic,11 because the holidays are coming and the board and you12 guys have families.13 MR. AFRAN: I just need to read that to make14 sure it doesn't create any factual issues.15 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Right.16 MR. AFRAN: I'll try to get this all done17 before November 10 and get an answer.18 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you.19 MR. AFRAN: I do have a question on20 management. Now, obviously it was made known originally21 that public comment would be part of the evening today,22 we assumed CME would testify and that would have been23 done earlier. I am not criticizing CME, I know things24 happen. A lot of people did come out, many not here25