December 10, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting - WEHI Transcript

01/14/2026 10:36:25 AM Page 29 to 32 of 144 8 of 55 sheets 29 office to describe the conversation.1 Okay.2 Q. Now, so you don't recall after the night after3 you testified to the day you received this e-mail4 November 13, if there were any conversations, if there5 were -- there would be an e-mail to your supervisor6 about them?7 Correct.8 A. Who would that supervisor be?9 Q. Nelson -- well, in the municipal it would be Ryan10 A. MacNeill. And Nelson Hernandez is my direct department11 supervisor.12 Thank you.13 Q. Now, turning to Exhibit 38, the document toward14 the back, the first e-mail that's dated November 13,15 it's from Mr. Anderson and it's addressed to Sam and16 Mark. Presumably Mark Seel at Langan.17 That's correct.18 A. Now, it says, "Are each of you available for a19 Q. conference call tomorrow? We would like to discuss the20 three open issues before you go on vacation Sam. I can21 do between 8:00 and 9:30 and after 2:00 PM." Signed22 Paul. Then it says, Paul W. Anderson of Anderson23 Consulting. Now, Mr. Anderson initiated this contact,24 is that correct?25 30 Correct.1 A. Okay.2 Q. Now, you e-mailed back six minutes later and said3 -- strike that. Mr. Seel e-mailed back six minutes4 later and said, "I am available after 2:00 PM." Four5 minutes later Mr. Anderson e-mailed back, "Okay. We all6 agree to 2:30." Now, I don't see an e-mail from you7 agreeing to the conversation, why is that?8 We did have a phone conversation based on that9 A. arrangement for an appointment.10 Yeah, but nothing in here indicates you said you11 Q. were available for the call. So how did you do the call12 if you never told anyone you were available for it?13 I made the call or they called me, whichever. We14 A. did have a phone conversation.15 And that would have been the next day, November16 Q. 14?17 I guess so. If it was in the time frame they18 A. were talking about.19 Well, November 13 Mr. Anderson said, "We'll call20 Q. tomorrow." And Mark said, "Yes." And you got the call21 or made the call, presumably that was the next day,22 correct?23 Correct.24 A. Okay.25 Q. 31 Now, there's no e-mail here to your supervisor,1 as far as I can see?2 No, there is not. That's the one, I can't3 A. produce that tonight, but I can produce it if you need4 it.5 Well, there's one dated November 14, which you6 Q. wrote to Mr. Anderson and Mr. Seel and copied Mr.7 Hernandez and Alejandra

, I can't3 A. produce that tonight, but I can produce it if you need4 it.5 Well, there's one dated November 14, which you6 Q. wrote to Mr. Anderson and Mr. Seel and copied Mr.7 Hernandez and Alejandra Mazier?8 Yes.9 A. Ms. Mazier. But that wouldn't be your internal10 Q. e-mail summarizing the conversation?11 No, I believe there's -- I have to go and check12 A. to see that there is. That I did make a memo of the13 conversation.14 So there is a record of your conversation with15 Q. Mr. Anderson and Mr. Seel of November 14, but no one16 that, no one has it, is that fair to say?17 That's fair to say.18 A. Don't you think we should have it?19 Q. I can't produce it tonight.20 A. I understand. Why didn't you think that would be21 Q. relevant for us to know about here?22 It was only general detail. The specifics of the23 A. result of the conversation was included in those24 e-mails.25 32 Okay. I would like to see that document, please.1 Q. I would like to ask you to produce all the, of the2 conversations, e-mails in which you memorialized your3 discussion with the Anderson people and the Langan4 people to your supervisors. I don't know what dates5 they are, but we may find out more dates as we go along.6 Now, when you received the e-mail from Mr.7 Anderson on November 13, you would agree that you never8 called Mr. Goll, isn't that correct?9 No, I've never spoken with Mr. Goll.10 A. And you didn't e-mail him either to say, I got11 Q. this request from Mr. Anderson, did you?12 No, I did not.13 A. What time, in your, here's an independent analyst14 Q. working for the public good evaluating two sets of15 reputable engineers, why are you accepting e-mails from16 one side, agreeing to conversations with that side and17 not telling the other side? It doesn't even look like18 you told the Planning Board. Why did you do that?19 I, I did request guidance from the Planning Board20 A. attorney as to whether I should be having those21 conversations.22 You spoke with Ms. McGovern about this issue?23 Q. Yes.24 A. By phone, by e-mail, text, how did you do that?25 Q.