December 3, 2025 Regular Meeting - WEHI Transcript

17 of 17 sheets Page 65 to 68 of 68 01/05/2026 02:58:16 PM 65 safety factor is 2.0. So isn't it a fact that this is1 not referring only to dams and structures like that?2 Right.3 A. But to perfectly ordinary buildings?4 Q. Right. And they say a 1.5 safety factor is5 A. adequate for retaining walls.6 But when you say 8-13 is the only section dealing7 Q. with dams and similar structures, that was not correct?8 Yeah, I am reading now to Section 7-12.9 A. Where in 8-13 does it limit it to things such as10 Q. dams or doesn't it, sorry?11 You're having an assistant reading it for you.12 I'm sorry, I brought the wrong glasses.13 A. We can revisit this another time. The Chair says14 Q. we should end and I have a little left, but I think we15 have to stop. So I would ask you to please read 8-13 so16 we can go over that subject. Okay. My question is very17 simply, does Section 8-13 -- don't answer now because18 you don't have your glasses, does Section 8-13 --19 What's the name of the manual?20 A. Army Corps Manual. Section EM 1110-1-290.21 Q. Continue. What's the title?22 A. Sliding Stability is Chapter 7 and Chapter 8 is23 Q. titled --24 But --25 A. 66 -- Design Considerations.1 Q. I think the manual is for rock foundations. The2 A. manual is -- I think the title of the manual is Rock3 Foundations.4 We can resolve that next meeting since we don't5 Q. have cover letters, but Section 8-13 is Design6 Considerations. It's headed, Design Considerations.7 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay.8 Ladies and gentlemen -- thank you Mr. Kleinberg.9 MR. AFRAN: Thank you, Mr. Kleinberg. Thank10 you.11 THE WITNESS: You're welcome.12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: PB-24-01, West Essex13 Highland, Block 179, Lot 32, Warner Road will be carried14 to the December 10 Special Meeting at 6:00 o'clock PM in15 council chambers.16 The next regular Planning Board meeting --17 MS. McGOVERN: 6:30.18 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: 6:30.19 Would be 6:30 PM in council chambers and the20 regular Planning Board will be January 7, 2026 at 7:3021 via zoom.22 MR. AFRAN: Mr. Chairman, I was writing --23 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Afran.24 MR. AFRAN: Clarify the date. December 1025 67 at what time?1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: December 10 at 6:30 PM in2 council chambers.3 (Hearing concludes at 11:00 PM.)4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 68 C E R T I F I C A T E I, ERIC S.

bers.3 (Hearing concludes at 11:00 PM.)4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 68 C E R T I F I C A T E I, ERIC S. FISHMAN, a Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public of the State of New Jersey do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and accurate transcript of the testimony as taken stenographically by and before me at the time, place and on the date hereinbefore set forth, to the best of my ability. I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel of any of the parties to the action; and that I am neither a relative nor employee of such attorney or counsel; and that I am not financially interested in the action. --------------------- ERIC S. FISHMAN, S.R. Dated:__________________