January 14, 2026, Planning Board Special Meeting - WEHI Transcript

11 of 53 sheets Page 41 to 44 of 122 02/03/2026 04:49:05 PM 41 board should be permitted to consider in terms of its a1 legal argument and they're dealing with the land use2 part.3 THE PUBLIC: I appreciate that. I could be4 dead by the time that happens and I'll have forgotten,5 it won't be available. I would like to have it marked6 and entered. I appreciate that.7 MS. McGOVERN: So noted.8 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: We won't forget you.9 THE PUBLIC: Well, we have been here a long10 time.11 Okay.12 MS. McGOVERN: And that's it? Any others?13 THE PUBLIC: So --14 MS. McGOVERN: Give them to Jamilet and she15 will hold them in the file marked by identification and16 should anybody want to OPRA them they could get them and17 if we end up in court and somebody asks for discovery of18 every document produced they will be produced.19 THE PUBLIC: Thank you.20 I have just one last item and it's the most21 recent series, if you will. And that has to do with my22 actually appearing here twice, once on September 10,23 once on November 10, and a series of voice e-mails and24 letters that were sent to Susan Gruel your fourth round25 42 housing element fair share planner and disclosures that1 were made that were presented to everybody here, not in2 this matter but in the housing element, for the reasons3 that did not meet eligibility criteria now when the plan4 was reached, nor did it the last time. Last time can be5 moot this time is not. And I brought a copy of the6 document set and in fact the book that I made sure it7 was served that night, so we're clear. Jamilet's got8 that on file. The correspondence from councils here.9 MS. McGOVERN: The board is not reviewing10 that for this application. Again, it's a legal issue.11 That'll end up perhaps in court.12 THE PUBLIC: As long as it's marked we can13 explain it later.14 MS. McGOVERN: Just ID number seven.15 MR. PLOCKER: May I say something for the16 record with respect to the documents Mr. Pannullo was17 just referring to. I believe I was provided with a copy18 of it at one point, and I will say for the record, that19 that's an issue that was made to Ms. Gruel, who I20 believe is the towns current affordable housing planner,21 in connection with this boards consideration of the22 towns fourth round plan.23 THE PUBLIC: Correct.24 MR. PLOCKER: Thank you.25 43 THE PUBLIC: Correct.1 MR. AFRAN: Let me just note --2 THE PUBLIC: You're on

ction with this boards consideration of the22 towns fourth round plan.23 THE PUBLIC: Correct.24 MR. PLOCKER: Thank you.25 43 THE PUBLIC: Correct.1 MR. AFRAN: Let me just note --2 THE PUBLIC: You're on the string, Bryan.3 You get the e-mails as well.4 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Mr. Afran.5 MR. AFRAN: I need a moment to look at this.6 I'm sorry.7 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay. Mr. Afran, take a8 moment.9 (Whereupon, a short recess is taken.)10 MS. McGOVERN: One last document marked as11 Objector ID-7, letters to -- I'm sorry. Objector ID-8,12 e-mails from Mr. Pannullo to Ms. Gruel objecting to the13 affordable housing plan. That's what we were going to14 call it, wasn't it?15 MR. AFRAN: Isn't that ID-7?16 MS. McGOVERN: ID-7, all right.17 MR. AFRAN: I think the binder part of that18 should be 7A, I think.19 MS. McGOVERN: Okay. Make it ID-8, the20 binder. All right.21 MR. AFRAN: Okay. The binder.22 MS. McGOVERN: So the binder from Pannullo23 to Gruel. Okay. All right.24 MR. AFRAN: Just for the record, Exhibit25 44 ID-7 is a two page letter.1 MS. McGOVERN: Two page letter and then2 eight is the binder. Okay.3 THE PUBLIC: And then I'm done, but this is4 not a comment, this is a recitation from the transcript5 from the very first meeting and it's actually, Chairman6 Bagoff when you introduced this application you said at7 the end of Page 13, "The board will listen to the8 testimony of all witnesses, the applicants witnesses,9 witnesses who may provide opposing viewpoints and the10 boards own experts to determine if the application11 satisfies both the site plan, requirements of the12 township ordinance, as well as the zoning ordinance that13 applies to this development. I want to take this14 opportunity to thank you for joining us in the public15 process and look forward to hearing from you all in16 person and on zoom. Thank you very much on behalf the17 Planning Board." I note that I don't think anybody here18 has been allowed to communicate, speak via zoom, all19 though that was your representation, your own words,20 that night. It is winter, a lot of people are21 snowbird's. I wanted to point that out for the record,22 and I appreciate it. Thank you.23 MR. AFRAN: Chairman, one more housekeeping24 thing. Another gentleman came up to me and said he had25