January 14, 2026, Planning Board Special Meeting - WEHI Transcript

7 of 53 sheets Page 25 to 28 of 122 02/03/2026 04:49:05 PM 25 appreciated. One of my clients also asking to point out1 that due to the Verizon outage many people who are2 listening in and were going to come when Mr. Kleinberg3 was finished, may not realize where we are in the4 evening and that's another reason people may come on the5 next night. I wanted to point that out. Appreciate you6 doing that anyway. I just want to explain that many7 people who weren't able to listen and know where we are8 today.9 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: It would be on the10 website.11 MS. McGOVERN: I can say what Mr. Plocker's12 going to say, let me just say we did specify that if the13 zoom goes down for any reason, it does not effect the14 notice, this meeting will continue on. So we have a lot15 of people in the audience it looks like that want to --16 MR. AFRAN: I am not complaining, I'm just17 passing on the comment.18 MS. McGOVERN: I don't think you want it to19 be determined that for any reason there is any question20 that this meeting is not noticed or that there is any21 technical difficulty that's disrupting the notice on22 this.23 MR. AFRAN: I was not raising a legal point,24 it was a practical comment. That's all.25 26 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay.1 Mr. Plocker.2 MR. PLOCKER: Can we just get, for the3 record, I know there was some discussion at the first4 meeting, Mr. Afran. Obviously the objector is a5 nonprofit corporation and I believe it was agreed that6 the officers of the corporation are represented by an7 attorney and would not be individual in offering public8 comment. Could we just confirm who those officers are9 now?10 MR. AFRAN: Whoa, whoa, whoa. It was not so11 agreed at all. It was agreed they would not question12 witnesses, they have an attorney doing that. It was not13 agreed they gave up their right as citizens to offer14 public comment. In fact it was expressly said to the15 contrary at one point.16 MS. McGOVERN: I believe Mr. Afran can call17 his clients to give a statement.18 MR. PLOCKER: That's perfectly fine.19 I just wanted it clear for the record and it20 has been a long time Mr. Afran, I did not go and review21 that transcript, so it's been a while.22 MR. AFRAN: Please accept my apologies.23 MR. PLOCKER: No problem. Thank you.24 MR. AFRAN: Do you want me to officially do25 27 that or when they stand they can say they're an officer.1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: You can put

ease accept my apologies.23 MR. PLOCKER: No problem. Thank you.24 MR. AFRAN: Do you want me to officially do25 27 that or when they stand they can say they're an officer.1 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: You can put it on the2 record who they are, if you wish. They can stand up,3 whatever you would like to do.4 MS. McGOVERN: Would you like to designate5 their part of the organization or they could do it, just6 so as long as -- if you see them come up and they didn't7 say it.8 MR. AFRAN: I don't know who may stand up.9 Let me say there are certain individuals who are10 officers of We Care NJ, which is a 501C-4 non profit11 organization, which is the official objector in this12 case. I am calling them at their discretion to make a13 statement. I would ask them when they rise to simply14 identify their position as officers or board members.15 MS. McGOVERN: Okay.16 MR. AFRAN: I believe one of my officers has17 something to raise. He is asking to address that, it's18 a separate issue from public comment.19 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: We are going to --20 THE PUBLIC: Before we get to public21 comment, please.22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Let me finish what I am23 saying and then go right ahead.24 Public comment will end this evening at25 28 10:00 PM.1 Go right ahead.2 THE PUBLIC: My name is Joseph Pannullo. I3 live in the 200-foot notice area. And prior to public4 comment I have some -- I am, I publically announced in5 this room December 9, I am no longer an officer nor6 director of We Care. I am speaking to you here pro se7 and I am speaking about a number of items before we8 close the record and begin public comment that I would9 like moved into the record and I have a copy of each of10 them with me and I have a flash drive for Jamilet with11 each one of those documents on it.12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: First Mr. Pannullo, we're13 going to go slowly.14 THE PUBLIC: Sure.15 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Because we want to make16 sure the record is clear and things that the Planning17 Board has authority over. So you will say what you have18 to say one at a time. Our counsel will speak to it, Mr.19 Plocker may have something to say about it, Mr. Afran20 may have something to say about it, and then we'll move21 forward.22 Mr. Afran, you want to say something?23 MR. AFRAN: Let me just say, Mr. Pannullo24 recently did give up the office of president, I25