March 4, 2026, Planning Board Regular Meeting - WEHI Transcript

23 of 54 sheets Page 89 to 92 of 136 03/11/2026 06:15:33 AM 89 it.1 MR. KLEIN: Yeah, no, I know. I don't know2 why we never talked about it.3 MAYOR McCARTNEY: That's a conversation with4 the fire department that that is there.5 MR. KLEIN: Okay. Again, never used it.6 Not that we know of.7 MR. ALPER: And there's curbs there, so it8 could be used, Marie and Blakely, it could be used for9 fire trucks that come in, but that's in any way suitable10 to be an emergency evacuation in an egress situation11 where a building is on fire, God forbid, and people need12 to leave. I mean, maybe --13 MR. KLEIN: You're saying only a fire truck14 can come in? Cars can't leave?15 MR. ALPER: I don't think it's designed for16 that, I mean, there's --17 MR. KLEIN: It's designed for a fire truck?18 MS. KAPFERER: It has curbs. You have to19 know, I'm sorry, it has mountable curbs.20 MR. KLEIN: Oh, oh, it's one with separate21 --22 MR. ALPER: Like, we're across from NJPAC,23 not NJPAC, OzPAK, where there's the --24 MR. KLEIN: Oh, okay.25 90 MR. ALPER: The post in the road that could1 be lifted off and anything could run through, it's not2 like that.3 MR. KLEIN: Well, they'd have to take them4 out to get the fire truck in and then when they're out5 people could drive away.6 MS. KAPFERER: You have to -- there's no --7 there's a mountable curb there.8 MR. KLEIN: Oh, okay.9 MR. BAGOFF: Mr. Klein.10 MR. KLEIN: No, I'm good.11 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay.12 Ms. Kapferer.13 MS. KAPFERER: I just have a couple14 questions on stormwater.15 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Go ahead.16 MS. KAPFERER: So if Mr. MacNeill, if we did17 go back and ask the applicant to revisit directing, you18 know, roof runoff to the wetlands, would they need to go19 back to DEP for permit approval?20 MR. MacNEILL: In most cases, yes. That21 would change their design which would require a new22 permit. So knowing that, again, I don't want to speak23 for the applicant, I'm not sure how far down that path24 they would want to go, it would be up to the board,25 91 knowing they would have to get an additional DEP permit.1 MR. KLEIN: Can I -- are you finished?2 MS. KAPFERER: I have one more.3 MR. KLEIN: Same subject, I'm going to4 follow up on that.5 So can I follow up own that. All right. So6 without the buildings and the parking lots there, water7 is flowing into the wetlands?8 MR. MacNEILL: Yeah. It's sheet flowing in.9 MR. KLEIN: Right.

that.5 So can I follow up own that. All right. So6 without the buildings and the parking lots there, water7 is flowing into the wetlands?8 MR. MacNEILL: Yeah. It's sheet flowing in.9 MR. KLEIN: Right. When you put in the10 buildings --11 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Can you point out where12 that is right now, so we can see.13 MR. KLEIN: Yeah, I got my pointer.14 MAYOR McCARTNEY: He's going to do it.15 MR. KLEIN: So, when these aren't here. I16 guess the high point is still way over, right. So it's17 going to, all this is going to flow into this and we're18 talking about this area of the wetlands?19 MR. MacNEILL: Yeah. Yeah.20 MR. KLEIN: So when you put the buildings in21 you're cutting off this amount of water, this amount of22 water, right? You still have all this water that's23 still going to go in?24 MR. MacNEILL: Yeah. You will still have25 92 the majority of that open space area that's disturbed,1 but, yeah, the building areas, the parking areas is2 what's piped down to the basins.3 MR. KLEIN: Right. And that's going to4 reduce the flow into the wetlands and over time they5 could dry up.6 MR. MacNEILL: That was the testimony7 provided. Yeah.8 MR. KLEIN: Yeah. Okay.9 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay.10 Ms. Kapferer.11 MS. KAPFERER: Yeah, my other stormwater12 question, I just can't remember if this was ever13 resolved. I think Mr. Walsh brought up a concern about14 the case of conditions, time of concentration being to15 fast or faster than what he thought it should be which16 would result in the higher existing conditions. Do you17 remember if that was resolved? I can look into it if,18 if not.19 MR. MacNEILL: So we do have those open20 comments as well that applicants engineer would have to21 address. Yeah.22 MS. KAPFERER: Okay. Great. Thank you.23 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Vice Chairman Guarino?24 VICE CHAIRMAN GUARINO: No, I'm okay.25