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cbd6abed-8cda-4dba-9ebd-560688bcfcb2 25 (Pages 97 to 100) Page 97 1 specific discussion with the Board's Acting Planner, 2 and they directed specifically the scope of what was to 3 be provided and that was provided by PSE&G. So 4 therefore we have fulfilled the requirement for an 5 Environmental Impact Statement. No waiver or relief 6 from this Board is needed in that respect. 7 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Thank you. I agree with 8 Ms. Porter's analysis. If you would direct your 9 attention to section 25-13.2 of our Ordinance, Subpart 10 B, and it says "A pre-application conference shall be 11 held with the Planning Director to determine the 12 content of the Environmental Impact Statement." That 13 was done. The applicant met with Nishuane Associates. 14 They agreed on what the content would be of the 15 Environmental Impact Statement for this project and 16 such a statement was submitted. Labeling it 17 Environmental Impact Statement is exalting form over 18 substance. The substance of what we received in this 19 submission from the Applicant satisfied the Planner who 20 ruled that it was in accordance with their meeting, and 21 as a Board we are obligated to accept it. 22 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Thank you for that 23 clarification. 24 CHAIRMAN NEUER: You're certainly welcome. 25 Now, do you have questions for the witness? Page 99 1 again, Mr. Scott. A little louder, please. 2 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Okay. You got me now? 3 I'll get as close as I can. 4 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Much better. 5 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Great. I'm a 6 researcher by profession, and I'm looking at research 7 that points out that -- and this is written by the 8 National Library of Medicine, that infrastructure of 9 the kind that I believe you're proposing the fence that 10 you're proposing, infrastructure of that kind when it 11 looks restrictive or overly -- 12 CHAIRMAN NEUER: You faded, Mr. Scott. We 13 didn't hear you. 14 THE WITNESS: Yes. I just got a flash that 15 my Internet connection is not stable. I hope that 16 substation is working. 17 CHAIRMAN NEUER: I hope it wasn't referring 18 to you. 19 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Maybe. You never 20 know. I'm looking at research that shows that the 21 appearance of infrastructure is very important not just 22 for beautification purposes of a community, because 23 what you might refer to as infrastructure such as tall 24 fences you're asking for above 8 feet maybe, 8 and

ucture is very important not just 22 for beautification purposes of a community, because 23 what you might refer to as infrastructure such as tall 24 fences you're asking for above 8 feet maybe, 8 and a 25 half to 9 feet, very tall fences, fences that look like Page 98 1 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Yes. As -- in your 2 position as a Planner can you discuss the -- or was it 3 discussed at all the possibility of using detention 4 tanks as opposed to the ponds? 5 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Mr. Scott, the witness did 6 not testify as to any engineering matters. 7 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: But no, not to 8 engineering, am I incorrect at that that is part of the 9 job to oversee the whole project? 10 THE WITNESS: May I answer? 11 CHAIRMAN NEUER: If you have an answer to 12 that Ms. Merainer, please do. 13 MR. PORTER: You can answer in your 14 capacity as the permitting manager for the project, if 15 you have familiarity and only to the best of your 16 knowledge. 17 THE WITNESS: I can tell you that we have 18 used underground facilities at some of our stations. 19 It was -- I had been informed that that was no longer 20 allowed by NJDEP. Therefore, I must rely on 21 engineering expertise for this. 22 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Thank you. I'm 23 looking at -- professionally speaking I'm a researcher 24 and I'm actually looking at a study from 2022 on -- 25 CHAIRMAN NEUER: You're starting to fade Page 100 1 prison -- like someone's in prison invites vandalism 2 and public destruction. 3 Has that ever been taken into consideration 4 in respect to this project? That what you're offering 5 in the way of the fence at 9 feet, maybe 8 and a half 6 feet from what you just showed us from Jersey City 7 which is a municipality of 300,000 people, whereas this 8 is a municipality of 50,000 people that that type of 9 infrastructure, according to the studies that I've 10 read, invites destruction and vandalism. 11 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Are you familiar with such 12 studies, Ms. Merainer? 13 THE WITNESS: I am not. The style of fence 14 is dictated by our corporate security department. So I 15 am not aware that the style of fence dictates -- excuse 16 me. I'm not familiar with the studies that Board 17 member Scott is referring to. 18 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Okay. I just wanted 19 to be clear on that particular variance. I'll leave it 20 at that. Thank you. 21 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Thank you, Mr. Scott. Mr. 22 Dannemiller? 23

eferring to. 18 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Okay. I just wanted 19 to be clear on that particular variance. I'll leave it 20 at that. Thank you. 21 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Thank you, Mr. Scott. Mr. 22 Dannemiller? 23 BOARD MEMBER DANNEMILLER: Thank you for a 24 very thorough presentation. I have no further 25 questions for this witness.