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cbd6abed-8cda-4dba-9ebd-560688bcfcb2 6 (Pages 21 to 24) Page 21 1 importance. So having trees mature or otherwise 2 directly next to power utilities can be problematic in 3 time. So they have those standards that they rely on 4 as they are beholden to additional regulation. 5 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Of course. Thank you. 6 And we're discussing critical infrastructure and we all 7 need that infrastructure, so I understand -- 8 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Mr. Scott -- 9 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Yes? 10 CHAIRMAN NEUER: A little louder. 11 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Oh, thank you. 12 Unfortunately I don't have a standing mic in front of 13 me, but can you hear me now? 14 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Better. 15 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Okay. What I was 16 saying was, yes, this is critical infrastructure, Mr. 17 Futey, and we understand that it has to be kept safe. 18 To your knowledge has there been any 19 reports that the trees that exist on that site 20 presently on the substation have caused problems that 21 are dangerous? 22 THE WITNESS: I'm not aware of any. 23 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Thank you. So the 24 fact that they're there has not caused a problem to 25 date. I believe the last time it was testified that Page 23 1 warmest is going to be at the south and the southwest 2 is when you get your afternoon sun. That's really when 3 it's coming across Mount Pleasant Avenue and you're 4 really not getting any shade onto the equipment. 5 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Thank you. You said 6 that you have personally not worked on any projects 7 with PSE&G that cut down trees that were larger than 40 8 diameter; is that right? 9 THE WITNESS: Trees have been removed on 10 the projects that I've been on. In terms of 40 inches 11 or not I think we've been probably pretty close but I 12 can't speak to that exact number. 13 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Would you say it's 14 common practice for PSE&G to cut down trees that are 40 15 inches in diameter? 16 THE WITNESS: Only if it conflicts with the 17 proposed work. 18 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: As Mr. Neuer and 19 myself said, we both visited the site. Can I ask how 20 many times you've visited the site, Mr. Futey? 21 THE WITNESS: I have not. Members of my 22 team have. 23 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Do you know how many 24 times they visited the site? 25 THE WITNESS: It was a number of times. I Page 22 1 that station has been there for 90 years or more? 2 THE WITNESS: Well, I can't really speak to 3 the

know how many 24 times they visited the site? 25 THE WITNESS: It was a number of times. I Page 22 1 that station has been there for 90 years or more? 2 THE WITNESS: Well, I can't really speak to 3 the whole history of the station. I have been 4 contracted really only for this application. So I can 5 really only speak to my involvement of it. And to my 6 knowledge and what the project team has informed me of 7 I don't know of any issues. 8 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Thank you. And when 9 it comes to cooling and shade -- and maybe this is not 10 a question for you. It may be for someone else but you 11 can answer it. Does -- this is a power station and we 12 have been getting warmer, as we all know due to climate 13 change. We've had a couple of hundred-degree days this 14 year. Does the shade protect in covering these 15 substations? Does that provide any type of assistance, 16 help to the substation itself? Is it beneficial? 17 THE WITNESS: For the substation I can't 18 really speak to the electrical equipment and the impact 19 it might have. I can tell you just based on the 20 placement of the trees in relation to the electrical 21 equipment we're talking -- the trees are primarily on 22 the south, pretty far away from the equipment, and the 23 east on Prospect Avenue. So they're not really 24 providing any shade of the electrical equipment today. 25 That would -- because the sun really when it's at its Page 24 1 don't have the exact number. 2 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Do you know what time 3 of year it was that they visited the site? 4 THE WITNESS: The first time -- I believe 5 it was fall that I know of. There were a couple of 6 visits I know but I don't have the exact dates. 7 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: So if it was in the 8 fall it's possible that the trees were already bare? 9 THE WITNESS: I don't believe so. No. 10 They evaluated it based on what they saw. And you can 11 also tell the health of a tree without all the leaves 12 on the branches. You can tell by the amount of dead 13 wood on it. You can tell if they're suffering or not. 14 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: And did you perform a 15 health check on all of the trees or your team? 16 THE WITNESS: I worked with my team in 17 terms of evaluating the plant. 18 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: And your results were? 19 THE WITNESS: They're reflected in the tree 20 removal plan. 21 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Were you instructed, 22 and if so by

terms of evaluating the plant. 18 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: And your results were? 19 THE WITNESS: They're reflected in the tree 20 removal plan. 21 BOARD MEMBER SCOTT: Were you instructed, 22 and if so by whom, to create the 8-foot tall perimeter 23 fence? 24 THE WITNESS: No. That's not in my scope 25 of this project.