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Page 20 1 aware of whether or not the site could accommodate 2 underground detention? 3 MR. BLAKE: So, in, that was, you know, 4 one of the things that I also looked into, I went 5 back and looked in, you know, the storm water 6 ordinance for West Orange and the New Jersey 7 Administrative Code section 78, and I was not able to 8 find anything about an underground detention or an 9 extended detention without a variance or a waiver. 10 So, as part of that, I reached out to John Hess with 11 CME just to see if there was anything that I was 12 overlooking, just because I wanted another engineer's 13 opinion to see if there was something maybe I wasn't 14 seeing and we kind of came to the same conclusion 15 that without a variance or a waiver, you couldn't do 16 underground detention, and then in addition, the 17 underground detention, the footprint would probably 18 still impact some of the trees. I don't know what 19 the extent of it is, because I haven't designed it. 20 MS. PORTER: So, in terms of your 21 discussion and your review of the West Orange 22 ordinance as it relates to a waiver or a variance, is 23 there an ability under the West Orange ordinance to 24 seek a variance or a waiver? Is there specific 25 language within the code present to allow for that to