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65b96228-b9ab-4f72-9291-fa4a14ff04c8 20 (Pages 77 to 80) Page 77 1 of PSE&G that many of the trees on the property are 2 not in fact facing the substation itself. 3 How important is that environmentally 4 in your professional opinion? 5 THE WITNESS: It's easiest to preserve 6 trees that are around the perimeter of the property 7 and like right at the perimeter of the property. 8 One of the -- the problems with these 9 -- these large trees is that they're in the interior; 10 in the interior, whereas the needs of the public 11 expands and their -- their need for greater 12 quantities of electricity expand, you know, and they 13 want to increase the size of the facility and its 14 productivity. 15 These -- these trees, I wish they were 16 at the perimeter of the property, but they're on the 17 interior of the property. 18 And -- but they do presently screen the 19 height of -- of the facility. 20 I mean, you can see them as you're on 21 the sidewalk on Prospect looking down in there, you 22 can see the size of these London plane trees and 23 these horse chestnut, you know, they're just -- 24 they're at the prime of their life, you know. 25 So when they're gone and there's new Page 79 1 That's the job of elected officials, 2 just as we are -- we can't question the statute. 3 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Do you have a 4 question? 5 MR. SCOTT: Thank you. 6 No, I'm making a statement, Mr. Neuer. 7 Thank you. 8 CHAIRMAN NEUER: But this is not the 9 time for making statements. 10 MR. SCOTT: No, the -- actually it is. 11 CHAIRMAN NEUER: This is not the time 12 -- 13 MR. SCOTT: The witness -- excuse me -- 14 I'm going to answer you now. 15 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Gee whiz. 16 MR. SCOTT: The witness mentioned that 17 the town council passed this law. 18 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Yes. And we're going 19 to -- 20 (Simultaneous Speaking.) 21 MR. SCOTT: And I agree -- 22 CHAIRMAN NEUER: -- enforce it. 23 That's our job. 24 MR. SCOTT: Yes. And -- and what I'm 25 saying -- excuse me. Page 78 1 trees to replant them, well, you're going to be 2 looking at that facility for a long time. You know, 3 till they -- they even begin to screen the facility 4 from public view. 5 MR. SCOTT: Beyond the -- the visual of 6 the screening, that the trees may not be covering the 7 substation, itself, environmentally they provide a 8 very important service to this township, do they not? 9 THE WITNESS: Yeah, I -- I think, as

the screening, that the trees may not be covering the 7 substation, itself, environmentally they provide a 8 very important service to this township, do they not? 9 THE WITNESS: Yeah, I -- I think, as I 10 said, those traffic lights, I'm sure everybody sat at 11 a traffic light on that intersection on Mount 12 Pleasant and Prospect, and there's four separate 13 lights. 14 And there's a lot of carbon monoxide 15 from the cars that are backed up at the lights. And, 16 you know, you only got the golf course and we've got 17 -- got, you know, we've got Eagle Rock reservation. 18 We've -- we're got a lot -- a lot of trees going for 19 us but -- but you can never can have too many trees. 20 MR. SCOTT: Okay. And I think that 21 that should be all of my questions for now. 22 Just that I agree it's not the job of 23 this appointed board to question the council, the 24 elected council, on whether it's the strongest, 25 safety, strictest law for replacing trees or not. Page 80 1 CHAIRMAN NEUER: We are -- 2 MR. SCOTT: Excuse me, sir. 3 CHAIRMAN NEUER: There is no excuse for 4 that. 5 You're out of order. 6 MR. SCOTT: And what I am saying -- 7 there's no excuse for your interrupting. 8 CHAIRMAN NEUER: You're out of order. 9 MR. SCOTT: You're out of order. 10 No, you're out of order. 11 CHAIRMAN NEUER: I don't interrupt, I 12 rule. 13 MR. SCOTT: You're interrupting, and 14 you don't rule me. 15 CHAIRMAN NEUER: You are out of order, 16 sir. 17 MR. SCOTT: We are out of order. 18 CHAIRMAN NEUER: You finished asking 19 your -- 20 MR. SCOTT: You are out of order, 21 Mr. Neuer. 22 CHAIRMAN NEUER: This is the time to 23 ask questions, Mr. Scott. 24 MR. SCOTT: We can sit here and 25 continue this forever.