12 12 24 PSEG West Orange BOA ZB 24 06 PSEG 35 Mt Pleasant Ave Condensed

65b96228-b9ab-4f72-9291-fa4a14ff04c8 22 (Pages 85 to 88) Page 85 1 the facts in front of you and you -- having seen the 2 testimony of engineers and everything, only you can 3 determine whether the intent of the ordinance has 4 been meet and that the applicant has exhausted all 5 other alternatives in possibly saving -- saving these 6 large trees that have been existing on the site since 7 it was first developed. 8 CHAIRMAN NEUER: However, the township 9 forester has stated that the application complies in 10 all respects with the law. 11 Is that correct? 12 THE WITNESS: He's not losing sleep 13 over it. There are others in the community that are, 14 but -- 15 CHAIRMAN NEUER: I'm well aware of 16 that, but we're talking about somebody who has been 17 employed by the township to provide -- 18 THE WITNESS: He has -- you know, 19 Mr. Kipp has done his due diligence. 20 And, again, I -- I apologize for using 21 the term bean counter, but that's -- that's what it's 22 come down to. 23 CHAIRMAN NEUER: I understand the term 24 very well, thank you. 25 It's now time to move to the public; Page 87 1 you, John. 2 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Mr. Linson, there is 3 something in your background. 4 MR. BARBEE: He may have two different 5 devices listening, so one is picking up the echo. 6 MS. CHANDLER: Okay, he's muted now. 7 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Okay. 8 Thank you, Mr. Barbee. 9 In any event, members of the public, 10 this is your opportunity to ask questions of the 11 witness based upon the testimony he has presented 12 tonight. 13 This is not the time for making 14 statements or presenting your own evidence. That 15 comes at other portions of the meeting. 16 This portion is limited only to 17 questions based upon his testimony. 18 Kindly raise your hand so that you may 19 be recognized and admitted into the meeting. 20 MS. CHANDLER: Yes, we have Mosha 21 Rudin. 22 Please state your name and address for 23 the record. 24 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Mr. Rudin? 25 THE WITNESS: I'm here. Page 86 1 however, we're well past our 9:30 break time. 2 It's 9:46. We're going to take a 3 recess until 9:55. 4 We are now in recess. And members of 5 the public, please don't go away. It's your turn to 6 ask questions. We are now in recess until 9:55. 7 (Whereupon, a short recess is taken 8 from 9:46 p.m. to 9:55 p.m.) 9 CHAIRMAN NEUER: It appears to me that 10 the board has fully reassembled. 11 Recess is over. 12

We are now in recess until 9:55. 7 (Whereupon, a short recess is taken 8 from 9:46 p.m. to 9:55 p.m.) 9 CHAIRMAN NEUER: It appears to me that 10 the board has fully reassembled. 11 Recess is over. 12 Members of the public, this is the 13 opportunity for you to ask questions of the witness 14 based upon his testimony. 15 Somebody has got to turn off their -- 16 MS. CHANDLER: I think that's 17 Mr. Linson. 18 THE WITNESS: I'm here. 19 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Okay. 20 MS. CHANDLER: Some feedback. 21 CHAIRMAN NEUER: John, turn off your 22 microphone for a minute, please. 23 As I was saying, members of the public 24 -- there's noise in the background. Somebody -- 25 MS. CHANDLER: Yes, it's coming from Page 88 1 MS. CHANDLER: State your name and 2 address, please. 3 CHAIRMAN NEUER: We're not getting a 4 response. Mosha Rudin. 5 MS. CHANDLER: You're good to go. 6 THE WITNESS: I'm here. 7 MS. CHANDLER: Okay. State your name 8 and address for the record. 9 THE WITNESS: Oh, again? John Linson. 10 CHAIRMAN NEUER: No. No, John. Not 11 you. 12 This is for Mr. Mosha Rudin. Do you 13 have any questions for the witness? 14 (No Response.) 15 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Can you hear me. 16 MS. RUDIN: Can you hear me? 17 CHAIRMAN NEUER: Yes. Who's this. 18 MS. RUDIN: Hi. This is Joyce Rudin. 19 I'm not sure why it's saying Mosha Rudin. It's Joyce 20 Rudin. 21 CHAIRMAN NEUER: That's what it says. 22 MS. RUDIN: Okay. Mr. Linson, nice to 23 see you again. 24 THE WITNESS: Yes, Joyce. 25 MS. RUDIN: How are you? And I want --