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6 • Mr. Scott said that even though Mr. Cokeley states in his letter that it is not a regulated water, he still feels like it is a regulated water body and it probably does have a riparian zone associated with it. • Mr. Scott said the board needs input from the DEP as to whether or not the ditch is regulated. PRESENTOR QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he is aware that there were more spillways of the storm water that came off of Crystal Point rather than the one at 40 Eagle Ridge. Mr. Scott said no he was not aware of any more spillways. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he was not aware that there was always a ditch that went straight down on 40 and there was flow over a branch that may have gone on to 42 but there was more than 1 spillway in these ditches. Mr. Scott said he seen the spillway that leads from 40 onto the Kessler’s property. He has been there on more than one occasion and has only seen that one discharge point. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he was part of the inspection crew by HEPSCD when they examined the ditch and asked for it to be cleaned out. Mr. Scott said he was not. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if is it his opinion that the storm water traveling through the ditch is coming from Crystal Point. Mr. Scott said some of it yes. He can’t say specifically since he doesn’t have calculations on the Crystal Point design. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he has calculations on the municipal storm water sewer system that is on Eagle Ridge Way. Mr. Scott said no. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott what does he base his opinion on of making a determination that the water in the storm water ditch is regulated. Mr. Scott said he hasn’t made that determination and has contacted the DEP to make that determination. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he disputes Mr. Cokeley’s opinion is important as a professional engineer. Mr. Scott said his opinion is important but he is not saying he completely agrees with it. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott what and who filed with the DEP. Mr. Scott said the municipal engineer requested that they reach out to the Department of Environment Protection to let them know about the situation and that they believe it is regulated water and for them to look into it. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he filed with the DEP. Mr. Scott said yes. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott what did he file. Mr. Scott said he reached out

is regulated water and for them to look into it. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he filed with the DEP. Mr. Scott said yes. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott what did he file. Mr. Scott said he reached out and contacted them to let them know. He sent them historical mapping, the 1959 topographic mapping as well as the 2010 topographic mapping. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott who did he contact. Mr. Scott said he doesn’t know the name specifically right now but can provide that as well as the information that was sent. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott did he do this before or after the planning board application was being heard. Mr. Scott said after the application was being heard. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott is she can get a copy of what was submitted and to whom it was submitted. Mr. Scott said yes, she will get it tomorrow. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if he knows when he contacted the DEP. Mr. Scott said it was sometime after the meeting that was held at city hall between the municipal engineer, Ms. Carballo, himself, Mr. Keller from Bowman, Llewellyn Park’s engineer, and one of Mr. Cokeley’s colleagues at Collier’s Engineers. During this meeting they were directed by the municipal engineer to reach out to the DEP. • Ms. Triolo asked Mr. Scott if at the meeting did, he announce that he was going to contact the DEP or did it happen afterwards. Mr. Scott said it was after the meeting.