Supporting Documentation · Dec 10, 2025
O36 Email from Mr Kleinberg
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Show all pagesHernandez, Nelson = From: Kleinberg, Sam Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2025 5:09 PM To: Mark Seel; pandersonpe@gmail.com Cc: MacNeill, Ryan; Rizzo, Jordan; Hernandez, Nelson; Mazier, Alejandra Subject: FW: WEHI Thank you Mark for your quick reply,; Please see our comments below in red: From: Mark Seel <mseel@Langan.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2025 1:24 PM To: Kleinberg, Sam <SKleinberg@cmeusal.com>; pandersonpe@gmail.com Ce: Hernandez, Nelson <NHernandez@cmeusal.com>; MacNeill, Ryan <rmacneill@cmeusal.com>; Rizzo, Jordan <jrizzo@cmeusal.com>; Mazier, Alejandra <AMazier@cmeusal.com> Subject: RE: WEHI This Message is from an external sender. Sam, A couple observations and thoughts: 1. The infinite slope case assumes water and failure surface parallel to the ground surface and assumes uniform surface and subsurface conditions. The infinite slope case is therefore an approximation because the ideal case doesn't exist (i.e., slopes are not exceptionally long or uniform). The infinite slope case is also a very shallow condition to validate the proportion of depth to length, as opposed to deeper seated potential failures. CME Response: We understand the limitations but maintain our recommendation that the stability evaluation consider the potential impact of heavy rain events on slope stability. The last Langan submittal included infinite slope evaluations, but those were above the assumed phreatic surface used in the calculation. In our opinion assuming the seepage parallel to the slope and at the ground surface emphasizes the need for the recommended Planning Board development requirements outlined in our report at the last meeting. 2. Our cases accounted for a water level shape that is based on the geometrical shape of slope and considering the only source of water is from direct precipitation between the ridge line and the eastern slope, which is limited. CME Response: We have recommended that the BMP-10 and BMP-11 infiltration basin mounding discharge be controlled to limit the groundwater flow over the slope for that reason. Due to the difficulty in determining natural and forced infiltration on the slope, we have recommended the conservative assumption outlined in our response to Langan Comment No. 1. 3. The strength values used in both CME and Langan’s analysis ignore forms of cohesion as conservative cases. However, if you back
vative assumption outlined in our response to Langan Comment No. 1. 3. The strength values used in both CME and Langan’s analysis ignore forms of cohesion as conservative cases. However, if you back calculate the minimum friction values required to achieve FS=1.0, the soil’s friction would have to be at least 45 degrees, which is not realistic in the upper few feet. Therefore, cohesion is present, likely in the form of roots. If you check the minimum root cohesion required to achieve FS=1.0 (assuming friction of 30 degrees for the upper 2 feet), cohesion would have to be at least 35 psf or slope failures would be visible after intense rainfalls, and there is no evidence of 1
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