February 26, 2025, Planning Board Special Meeting Transcript - WEHI

03/03/2025 06:36:47 AM Page 93 to 96 of 115 24 of 46 sheets 93 McGovern's question that perhaps the wife of the1 president might well be a member, it does not have2 members. It only has officers.3 MS. MCGOVERN: Just officers, not members?4 MR. AFRAN: It has trustees, no members.5 MS. MCGOVERN: Okay.6 MR. AFRAN: As far we know Ms. Pannullo is7 fully an independent person in her own right.8 THE PUBLIC: That's a matter of debate9 sometimes. Okay.10 May I continue?11 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Go right ahead.12 THE PUBLIC: Thank you.13 Mr. Walsh, was the plan you and I discussed14 the original plan that was submitted?15 THE WITNESS: This plan has changed a few16 times since it was originally submitted to the DEP.17 THE PUBLIC: Did you review the previous18 plan?19 THE WITNESS: I reviewed a few different20 versions of this plan.21 THE PUBLIC: So I guess the answer would be,22 yes?23 THE WITNESS: Yes.24 THE PUBLIC: Thank you.25 94 What was the difference?1 THE WITNESS: The stormwater -- well, I want2 to say I reviewed the stormwater portion of the plan, I3 don't pretend I observed anything else, reviewed4 anything else. But the stormwater system became more5 complex as it kept developing. Originally I don't think6 there was any pervious pavement system involved.7 Basically basin number 2 was drastically different. I8 believe basin 1 was different. It's a little while ago,9 can't quite remember all the changes.10 THE PUBLIC: That's okay.11 THE WITNESS: But it looked like a different12 site.13 THE PUBLIC: Okay.14 And do you know why it was withdrawn?15 THE WITNESS: I don't know if it was, I don't16 know why they updated the plans.17 THE PUBLIC: Okay.18 THE WITNESS: I don't want to guess.19 THE PUBLIC: Okay. I won't go on. We don't20 have much time.21 So earlier you referenced ACS Page 9. Can22 we pull up, I believe Page 3 of the ACS report. Can we23 do that. I'm interested in looking at paragraph number24 2, I believe it is.25 95 THE WITNESS: Page 9.1 THE PUBLIC: Thank you.2 And we want Page 3. So we had referenced3 Page 9 earlier, but what I'm interested in looking at,4 if you can find Page 3. Thank you. And I think if you5 want to save some time it would be Paragraph 2, correct?6 That's the one I was interested in looking at.7 THE WITNESS: Under methodology.8 THE PUBLIC: No, maybe not. You know what,9 I'm not sure which paragraph, I will have to take a look10 back. I will

ct?6 That's the one I was interested in looking at.7 THE WITNESS: Under methodology.8 THE PUBLIC: No, maybe not. You know what,9 I'm not sure which paragraph, I will have to take a look10 back. I will give somebody else the opportunity to come11 up while I take a look, I'm sorry, which paragraph it12 was. Okay.13 Thank you.14 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Any other member of the15 community have a question for Mr. Walsh on his16 testimony? Please come up.17 THE PUBLIC: Mike Brick, 19 Colony Drive,18 West Orange.19 Am I allowed to appear as the chairman of20 the Environmental Commission or as a private citizen21 right now?22 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Private citizen asking Mr.23 Walsh questions.24 THE PUBLIC: Okay. I am a private citizen.25 96 Mr. Walsh, you discussed the criteria from1 EPA on the old standard. Do you ever forecast the2 future what standards will be as the environment3 continues to deteriorate say in 10, 20, 30 years?4 THE WITNESS: What do you mean, forecast?5 THE PUBLIC: The changes in the environment6 will only get worse and so we've seen the EPA change7 their standards from five, six years ago to now. Do you8 forecast another --9 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Sir, referencing DEP?10 THE PUBLIC: Yeah, is that what I said?11 MS. MCGOVERN: You said EPA.12 THE PUBLIC: Sorry.13 DEP. Do you forecast five or six years and14 then another 10 or 15 years for the standards that your15 looking at for stormwater runoff, is that possible?16 THE WITNESS: That would involve a17 statistical model that I don't think -- I will say with18 forecasting the inland flooding rules that DEP tried to19 do, they wanted to forecast 100-years into the future20 and they provided storm sizes for what we need to21 predict now based on data on what it would look like 10022 years in the future.23 THE PUBLIC: So the data that you are24 talking about that are not being applied to this project25