June 4, 2025, Planning Board Regular Meeting Transcript - WEHI

06/20/2025 06:55:03 AM Page 37 to 40 of 101 10 of 41 sheets 37 Yes.1 Q. U.S. Department of Agriculture Web Soil Survey2 A. and U.S. Department of Agriculture Official Soil3 Description.4 And the information you took is that specific to5 Q. this site?6 The official soil description just describes that7 A. soil series. The Web Soil Survey map has a little more8 detail. There are some for Essex County but not9 necessarily specifically to the site.10 But for the vicinity?11 Q. Correct.12 A. MR. AFRAN: Just need one moment, please.13 Mr. Chairman, I think we should just offer to mark the14 slide presentation. I don't remember what number we're15 up to and Jamilet, I haven't given her all the exhibits16 yet, so I have absolutely no idea what number we're up17 to.18 MS. McGOVERN: We are on 0-14.19 MR. AFRAN: Thank you.20 So we would offer that as Exhibit O-14 for21 the objector.22 So that concludes my questions for now,23 unless anything prompts anything further. Thank you.24 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Thank you very much for25 38 your presentation.1 Could you go to the mapping. See Howell2 Drive and as an expert is this a unique piece of land3 that is not found anywhere else in the surrounding area4 territory? There was a map that you had of the5 property. That one. So is this a unique piece of land,6 nowhere else to be found or are --7 THE PUBLIC: Can't hear you.8 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Is this a unique piece of9 land similar with the fragipan or are the other areas10 contiguous to this similar?11 THE WITNESS: Adjacent to this?12 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Correct.13 THE WITNESS: No.14 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: No which?15 THE WITNESS: The land adjacent to this16 property are all developed.17 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: But initially we are18 talking, I am asking before it was developed, Howell19 Drive, West Highland Golf Course was similar. Could20 this be a unique piece of land that was not similar to21 all those other pieces of land or your expert opinion is22 the surrounding land is similar to this land?23 THE WITNESS: If you're asking24 historically --25 39 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Correct.1 THE WITNESS: -- are the soils on the ridge2 similar?3 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Right.4 THE WITNESS: My answer is probably, yes.5 CHAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay.6 Okay. Mayor McCartney, do you have any7 questions?8 MAYOR McCARTNEY: Chairman, thank you.9 So I am trying too make sense of this. With10 Mr. Gallagher, your testimony that, yes,

HAIRMAN BAGOFF: Okay.6 Okay. Mayor McCartney, do you have any7 questions?8 MAYOR McCARTNEY: Chairman, thank you.9 So I am trying too make sense of this. With10 Mr. Gallagher, your testimony that, yes, the buildings11 will in fact displace the water.12 MR. AFRAN: Mayor, I couldn't hear.13 MAYOR McCARTNEY: I am just trying to14 reiterate that Mr. Gallagher's testimony was saying15 that, yes, the project will displace the water. But it16 would seem to me that being an overlay zone on what the17 stormwater management plan is, on how is that water18 being redirected and we don't see that. So do you19 understand what I am saying?20 MR. AFRAN: I could follow-up.21 MAYOR McCARTNEY: I understand it's being22 displaced, but maybe it was the beginning of the year23 about stormwater and stormwater management.24 MR. AFRAN: I think I could help by25 40 following up with a question, if that's all right.1 Could you please go back to the map with the arrows.2 THE WITNESS: Which one?3 MR. AFRAN: The map with the arrows. Blue4 and violate arrows. Okay. Now, is it possible to zoom5 in little bit on that. Thank you.6 Now, on this map you're showing the pink7 arrows demonstrating water going to certain defined8 places, correct?9 Correct.10 A. Now, looks like conduit or some kind of a11 Q. semicircle, is that correct?12 Yes.13 A. Okay.14 Q. Now, then there are detention basins built into15 the, say on the bottom where you pointed to and there's16 several. This is part of the stormwater management17 plan, isn't it?18 It is, yes.19 A. So these features that are marked here with the20 Q. arrows go to -- are reflective of the stormwater21 management plan, is that fair to say?22 It is, yes.23 A. MR. AFRAN: So Mayor, I think that in a24 sense there's an overlay through this because he is25